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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:37 PM Original message |
Professor Gives Standardized Tests an "F" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Test scores tell us what kids know on one day |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Which is one of the several reasons why |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. The entire (charter) school system in New Orleans, which is replacing the public schools, |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. disaster capitalism |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. That is it exactly. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I'm so sorry to hear that. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Me too |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. One of my colleagues was RIF'd this spring |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Did I read you right? |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. and here's another Rec |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. His staff returned it. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. We need people who can actually get things done |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Aptitude testing bears no relationship whatsoever |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Michigan Merit Exam -- one of the tests that the Professor objected to |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Take the time to watch the video |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I did -- alas, the Professor is even more fuzzy-minded than I had feared |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. FarCenter |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Actually, I think that children should be grouped by ability and not age |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Thank you for your response. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. The test materials on Michigan Educational Assessment Program look like achievement tests |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. i generally agree with you |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. That statement alone |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Teachers do not oppose assessment per se. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Excellent post, I couldn't agree with you more |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. "little morons with wonderful personalities"?! |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Take progressive thinkers, for example -- happy, well-developed, self-satisfied personalities? |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. And testing does nothing to ensure those qualities. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
36. We need both. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. (shrug) Education major. 'Nuff said. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. Schools teach to the standardized test |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Because they are complying with mandates. |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'd like to try to keep this thread up there. |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
27. another kick for this issue n/t |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. 'Nite |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And good morning. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. New York state |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I know the history of standardized testing. |
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