Human Remains Found In Wall Of Yale Lab

Damn. :cry:

"NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- New Haven police announced Sunday that human remains, tentatively identified as belonging to missing graduate student Annie Le, have been found inside a wall in a school laboratory.

More than 100 law enforcement agents have been searching for Le since Tuesday.

Le, a graduate student at the Yale School of Medicine, was last seen entering a campus building on surveillance camera.

Police said they believe Le left the Sterling Hall of Medicine where she had an office before 10 a.m. Tuesday. They said there are records of her swiping her card to get into a lab on Amistad Street, where she was captured by some of the more than 70 area surveillance cameras. They said she hasn't been seen or heard from since..."

http://www.wfsb.com/news/20893384/detail.html

:wtf:

But really, we aren't far behind the UK in marching down the road to big brotherism.

Clearly you never worked or went to school in a dangerous neighborhood.

I know New Haven has some rough spots, but I don't remember the neighborhood around Yale as being dangerous.

on a pretty rough neighborhood in New Haven's Hill district. I used to go there quite a bit when I managed tutors for Literacy Volunteers, who tutored in churches and a library there. We had tutors who would not go to those sites because they were afraid.

Here in Providence, Rhode Island we had a campus group organize all sorts of "Safety" events. The Students at Brown protested and talk showed and all sorts of other things.

Turns out the year before the city of Providence was found to be the safest city in NORTH AMERICA.

When the smoke cleared it was found that the people these students had to fear were OTHER STUDENTS.

the can help in an investigation, but the girl is already dead.

I did rave events there and never had to fear for my gear once, never had to hire any extra security even at 4am.

It's not as bad as other areas because there's always a lot of people around, but it still could be sketchy at times.

in fact there have been TWO of them.

one in 1993 turned out to be the Unibomber, cameras were no help there.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199504270882995.html?jse=0



and the other in 2003

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2003/09/03/law-school-bomber-still-at-large/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/05/21/yale.explosion/index.html


I seem top recall that BUSH was speaking on campus that day and may have been targeted, but i can't find a source to back it up.

Eh, I've lived in some pretty dangerous places, or at least places most people would consider "undesirable".

They are finding in the UK that the cameras aren't doing much to impede crime or criminals.

in and around the lab. The lab has 100 offices on multiple floors.

Real useful, those cameras.

Lots of people poured out of the building in white lab coats. And I doubt if this murderer will be getting away. Chances are they are on film somewhere.

in an effort to evade her assailant.

The alarm was set off by steam.

of shirt and pants so that he could get rid of the bloodied clothing and slip out of the building during the fire evacuation. If so, this was a well thought out deed.

I haven't read anything about a murder weapon. A gun would only be feasible with a silencer. Bloody clothing indicates it wasn't a strangulation. A knife perhaps...

all in one thread.

maybe a restroom? Setting off a fire alarm to get away means lots of people are on camera - clearly the murder isn't.

Probably not inside the lab, for example.

so this was always going to have a horrific end.
Both findings suggest someone very familiar with the building.
Wonder who set off the fire alarm - must have given the killer a lot of time to kill and encase the poor lady.

carrying a body, and Le was never seen leaving, so the murder had to take place in there, and her body had to be inside.

Jesus, this is horrific..............

You can't encase someone in a wall without serious preparation.

Now to find the killer - fellow student, jilted lover, obsessed professor, other building worker, stalker. The FBI will get that bastard. Mistakes are always made.

made-for-TV movie.

The beautiful young student, in love with another student, planning to be married.

The geeky/weird/married/sexually confused teacher/lab assistant/janitor/fellow student who has the usual obsession with the beautiful young student.

The wedding approaches.

The tension rises.

He's not even invited to the wedding.

You know the rest.................

but don't expect in real life? This seems so very brazen-to do something like that with so many cameras around, in a secure building with key card access, during the day no less.

cameras are nothing. This person, being an insider, knew where the cameras were and was able to work outside their range.

Crazy can pretty much do anything...........................

to empty the building. He'll be caught.

I have no idea how someone would be able to set it off on purpose.

Sounds like the killer. Sounds like he was very familiar with the "plant." It also sounds like a well thought out murder. Fiendishly so.

from a device. I presume it was a sterilizer, because sterilizer releases steam when it is opened.
I think it might be difficult to do it on purpose to trigger an alarm.

If the killer knew how the system worked, he probably knew how to simulate an accidental set off of the alarm so he could make his getaway in the ensuing evacuation, slip past the cameras behind people, etc.

equipment worked if that were the case.
Sterilizers release steam when opened, but I have no clue how you'd rig it to set off a fire alarm.

You'd think Yale would see to it that it couldn't happen, but evidently it did...and someone might have known how it had happened before and then just simulated it...

how to set it off - that is a very strange coincidence.

And of course the family and loved ones left wondering what the poor victim endured during her final minutes alive.:cry: :cry:

Years ago there was a dental student murdered in the dorm at Northwestern in Chicago. She was also very petite. Her ex-lover strangled her in the dorm room and carried her body out in either a laundry hamper or a suitcase. He put it in the car trunk and left the state.

Her disappearance wasn't reported until she missed classes for a couple of weeks. Much later they looked back at the videotape of the killer leaving the dormitory carrying something large. But it didn't arouse suspicion at the time.

Surely the damage to the drywall would have been noticed sooner?

I'll bet there are things like bricked up ovens or fireplaces. There's a lot of that in New England buildings. :(

...the sort of thing that has access panels for mainteneance, not just busting up a wall.

That's usually who does the killing in these cases, unfortunately.

By the way with so many cameras, don't you think police would have noticed if he were anywhere near the building?

Thanks for the info. Glad he's not a suspect. I hate people getting killed and all but it REALLY pisses me off when it's the spouse of the person that does it. Especially if the woman was pregnant and the spouse kills them - I can't freaking believe when people do that.

to enter without notice

the building.

He said the body was found about 5 p.m. Sunday in a chase - a vertical space used for ducts, pipes or wires - in the basement of the building at 10 Amistad St. in New Haven. It was discovered on the same day Le was to be wed in Syosset.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/cops-body-found-hidden-in-yale-building-may-be-annie-le-1.1444964

Had to be someone familiar with the building.

in a campus building full of people. It probably was someone she was acquainted with.

Let's hope this case is solved quickly.

"NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Police have identified a suspect in the killing of a person whose body was found stuffed behind a wall in a high-security laboratory building at Yale University, law enforcement sources told NBC News on Monday.

The suspect, a student, has defensive wounds, and failed a polygraph test, police said.

The body found Sunday in the Yale Medical School building is believed to be that of Annie Le, a 24-year-old native of Placerville, Calif. She was last seen in the building on Tuesday.

Police found the female body around 5 p.m. Sunday. An autopsy is being performed to verify that the body is Le's..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32810822/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

From the MSNBC linked artcle

Crime and safety
Le wrote an article that was published in February in the medical school's magazine. The piece, titled "Crime and Safety in New Haven," compared higher instances of robbery in New Haven with cities that house other Ivy League schools. It also included an interview with Yale Police Chief James Perrotti, who offered advice such as "pay attention to where you are" and "avoid portraying yourself as a potential victim."

"In short, New Haven is a city and all cities have their perils," Le concludes. "But with a little street smarts, one can avoid becoming yet another statistic."



The perpertrator has to be someone she knew, IMHO

I'm wondering what they meant by "defensive wounds." Fingernail scratches? Black eye?

to someone else..? :shrug:

Anyone?

that I have read. It became obvious very quickly that someone in the Yale community was involved in this because of the circumstances.

There are a number of reasons why Yale's medical campus had strong security and they weren't mostly concerned with "locals."

"The medical campus borders on a pretty rough neighborhood in New Haven's Hill district. I used to go there quite a bit when I managed tutors for Literacy Volunteers, who tutored in churches and a library there. We had tutors who would not go to those sites because they were afraid."

This means that random acts of theft and violence CAN happen, but probably most often among people who actually live there. Most of the victims are people who live there, not outsiders, but would not a wise person avoid places where such things would happen?

That said, this crime was not a random act of violence in a bad neighborhood. And no one said it was. AS the story unfolds, it looks more likely that it was, as I and others have said, an act of a person in the Yale community. I find it difficult to believe that anyone outside of the Yale community would do this.

I DO live here. I know what is safe and what is unsafe. I take certain precautions, as do all of my friends and neighbors. We all live in New Haven (this is Westville). We love it here because we have diversity which we celebrate and love. So please don't get this wrong...