WTF is with the RW obsession with ACORN?

I was listening to Monica Crowley's radio show for a few minutes yesterday and she was going on and on about ACORN, which, by reading various headlines here and elsewhere, seems to have become the right-wing's current all-consuming obsession at the moment. Crowley was ranting, I guess, about the most recent "scandal" involving ACORN and underage illegal immigrants(?) and demanding a Congressional investigation into the organization because she claimed that they are receiving billions and billions of taxpayer dollars and mentioned something about "graft". What is with this "crusade" or, more appropriately, "jihad" against ACORN, exactly? I know that Beck seems to have become the "frontman" of this effort but it appears other tools like Crowley are jumping on the bandwagon as well.
First, as I recall from John McCain, ACORN was supposedly "threatening" American Democracy during last year's election by submitting fraudulent voter registrations even though, as I understood it, they were required, by law to submit EVERY registration they do and flag the questionable ones, which, I believe, they did. Of course, that didn't satisfy the righties.
Now, ACORN is being accused by the right-wing of basically being some kind of vast left-wing criminal enterprise condoned, financed, and supported by Obama and the Democratic Party. I don't know all of the details of the current "scandal" but it seems strange to me that an entire organization is now suspect simply because SOME of its members may have engaged in criminal wrongdoing- for which AFAIK the offending parties were immediately terminated (and may even be prosecuted). I have never heard of an entire organization suddenly becoming suspect simply because of wrongdoing by some of its employees (assuming the leadership is not involved). If that is the case, it would seem to me that practically no organization would be able to exist. Of course, we all know about the right-winger "standards" for Democrats and liberal organizations as opposed to their own organizations. :eyes: I also read that, as a result of pressure from the wingnuts and some of these "scandals", ACORN was removed from helping with the 2010 Census and apparently some right-wingers are even calling for the feds to try Acorn under RICO, a law designed to break up organized crime.
I just don't get it. Can somebody explain this sudden obsession that right-wingers suddenly have with ACORN? I had never even heard anything about them until last year. Is it because of Obama's past as a community organizer that they are suddenly focusing on ACORN- as though they believe that this is somehow one way in which they believe that they can discredit Obama? :shrug:

K&U

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That woman could have been the vice president of the United States, and, with John McCain at the helm, could have easily become president (there was a fairly good chance he would have kicked it during his term). That threat was undeniably huge and would have been utterly disastrous to this country. ACORN is small potatoes and doesn't wield nearly a fraction of the power the right wing imagines.

She's irrelevant, and so is her Jerry Springer show family.

...with John McCain at the helm, could have easily become president (there was a fairly good chance he would have kicked it during his term). That threat was undeniably huge and would have been utterly disastrous to this country....

That didn't happen, and it will never happen.

all but 2 other people in the nation.

She's irrelevant.

That's about the size of it.

That's why we were so up in arms -- the threat was REAL. If Chimpy McFuckstick got himself elected twice (I'm not saying he got in legitimately, but he got in), McCain could have, too. And McCain is old and has health problems. And Ms. Crazypants would have been next in line. And I think you're slightly delusional if you don't understand that was a very real threat.

She got enough media exposure that a majority of US voters think she fell off a turnip truck.

She's not going anywhere.

And I think you're slightly delusional if you don't understand that was a very real threat.

The fact that she LOST proves that she wasn't a very real threat.

But it did, and it's running just fine with no reason to believe it won't continue doing so. So what would be the point in dwelling on an event that seemed to have potential to happen, but did not?

Had Wendell Wilkie won the Presidential election of 1940, he would have become President when Wilkie kicked the bucket. Just think of what a sad state that would have left our country in.



Oh, the huge manatee.

An election held 60 years ago. Where would the outrage be? Hmmmmm :shrug:

It's well-documented that they were trying to.

Just THINK about how messed up this world would be.

The President might be named Schickelgruber!

:rofl:

:nuke:

Nor so inexperienced, so so out of it.

Nor should anyone care about Sarah Palin. She's a mere pimple on the ass of history.

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The "LW obsession with Sarah Palin" as you call it, is based on her utter ineptitude as AK's governor, her criminal behavior in that office, and her total lack of qualifications for the office of the vice presidency.

The difference is, these accusations are being leveled at Obama with no basis in the truth.

The "LW obsession with Sarah Palin" trumps the hell out of the RW obsession with Obama.

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edited to add "vice" to post. We were also concerned about McCain's imminent croakage, which would have put her in the Oval Office. What a horrific thought!

Not whatever accusations are being leveled at President Obama.

We were also concerned about McCain's imminent croakage, which would have put her in the Oval Office. What a horrific thought!

Why concern yourself with a situation that DIDN'T HAPPEN?

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HE'S STILL DEAD, AND TEH CRIME HAS NEVER BEEN SOLVED!!!!!

I imagine what one may percieve as 'mental illness' and 'obsession', may just as easily be perceived as comedy gold by another.

However, as I have a mental illness over and obsession with the Three Stooges, it comes as no surprise that I do not posses the objectivity of your keen analysis.

Now that we have a black president anyone who is black has to be linked to Obama no matter what, the media will try their best to ask the president a question relate to that black person so that they can link him to their usually bad behavior as though everyone who is black is the same and do thing the same. Whereas if white people do the outrageous things all white people aren't painted with that same brush.

Just like the Serena and the Kenye west situations,I wouldn't be surprised if one of these stupid reporters ask the president what he thinks about it and depending on what his answer is they will try to find some way to link him to their bad behavior or any other black person.We never heard this with any other presidents. Did they ask Clinton or Bush what did they think when Andy Dick or McEnroe acted a fool or did something outrageous..

Concerns over Palin were legitimate. She was ignorant! She made outrageous claims about President Obama leading up to the election. She was not fit to serve as Vice President. We had eight year of a president that had never read a fucking book in his life. Look what that did to the country! We did not need more of the same with Palin. Besides, she was a nut case religious extremist.

But she and McCain LOST THE ELECTION and are no longer relevant.

is the most popular candidate for president among Republicans polled. We still have concerns in a country where voting irregularities put an end times dummy in office two times. Why is our concern a big deal to you? We aren't raving tea baggers. Your concerns make me very suspicious.

Most poll results are bullshit, and one this far in advance of an election is sure to be more worthless than most.

Predicting the future is not something I have ever claimed to be able to do, but based on her sorry performance in 2008 I believe she's not going to be taken seriously as a candidate for the 2012 Presidential race.

Right now she is a distraction and nothing more. I welcome and respect any differing opinions.

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and if there's something a white bigot can't stand, it's seeing black folks get a helping hand.

Never mind that they also work for white poor folks. He doesn't particularly care about those shiftless folks who were born on the bottom.

It just frosts his ass that black folks are getting help he never got (because he never needed it).

Where?

:evilgrin:

They've all been ACORN'd and it's now a jihad.

therefore his drones are also equally obsessed; and yes, the fact that it is a group devoted to assisting minorities and the poor does not endear them to all those "christian" right-wingers. They hate. That is all they do.

The right wing rhetoric machine has planted the image of masses of black voting fraudulently.

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and poor people tend to vote against the entrenched interests of "business."

If they can get rid of ACORN they think they can get rid of the metro inner city poor vote... Which is always against them.

one which can mobilize people.

independent or counter-vailing organizations which can mobilize people for political ends = threat to established power.

Therefore they are the enemy.

a.k.a. the end of the world. For them.

At least, I hope so.

therefore, they need to be smashed by any means necessary


The right fears the power of organized justice

Clearly those in power in the party don't want minorities voting. But that's not the made up fantasy stuff they feed the rabble. Who apparently imagine vast conspiracy theories

They have to blame it on something, so they claim ACORN stole the election.

I told her a lot of other white people voted for Obama, that the black vote alone was too small a number to be a majority. :eyes:

Exactly.

to violence. Plain and simple.

They are waging a non-stop propaganda war to convince their followers that ACORN and Obama are a evil and must be stopped. When the river of lies goes unchecked and ratchets up the fear factor high enough, delusional right wing "patriots" turn violent.

It's fun watching people try though - the absurdly unlikely and complex answers they come up with are amusing.

Thanks for reminding me of it!

Pro tip: There is an infinitely easier way to avoid being called racist - don't be racist.

to push through socialist policy by stealth.

no one got fired because of their history of left-wing political associations, either. no, johnson got targeted only because he was black.

the whole tea-bagger thing is just a collection of individual racists coming together.

They are going after a left wing organization that is wounded just as those on the left would do for a right wing one. ACORN isn't dead but it's taken some serious hits in the last few days.

The strategy for the videos has been played out to a tee. Instead of just releasing all of their videos at once they keep releasing new ones, exponentially increasing the distaste for ACORN and extending their news cycle.

ACORN will not be going away any time soon, no matter what you and your friends might think.

:)

For some strange reason, lots of artifacts manufactured from an igneous rock source get delivered to those on my 'buddy' list.

It makes me sad.



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. . . very few of my Red X Toilet surfers ever see the Marble Row. In fact, several are 8000+ posters, for whatever reason.

Sure must be because they're loved, since their economic and labor stances are somewhat to the right of Jack Welsh and/or they get away with flamethrowers normally seen on Yahoo discussion boards.

"Now, ACORN is being accused by the right-wing of basically being some kind of vast left-wing criminal enterprise condoned, financed, and supported by Obama and the Democratic Party."

The rabid racist freak our over an African American president has caused the RWnuts to go into overdrive to find any "excuse" (barring admitting it's Obama's ethnicity) to get rid of the whole administration and anyone associated with it.

The McCarthyism is sadly amusing, and has taken on a life of its own. Xenophobia at its worst.

but wanted to see if I maybe missed something. :shrug: I would say that it's more RW nuttiness but the RW attacks DO seem to be taking their toll on the organization, hence the withdrawal of the 2010 census contract(?) with them. I just hope that the Democrats don't buy into the RW hype and start *investigating* them like the RW is suggesting. I have a feeling that the Pubs would no doubt make investigating ACORN the first thing on their "to do" list if they got Congress back in their slimy hands. Well, either that or compelling Bill Ayers to testify under oath on Obama's "association" with him. :eyes:

RW scumbaggery knows no depth. :puke:

Beck would be encouraging people not to fill out the questionairre or slam the door on census workers. Accurate data would be impossible.:eyes:

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Republicans like to use Gingrich's tactic of blaming someone else for what you are doing to divert media attention away from your tactics.

When the GOP pays for doing robocalls to misdirect voters and tries to make voting more difficult for Democratic districts and even manipulates computer data, they need to say "LOOKIE HERE at those ACORN folks" to divert media attention from their own massive bag of tricks and illegal activities.

I believe that Media Matters has been working on this issue but are there any other efforts by anybody else to defend ACORN from these smears? Or is it "too hot" for Democrats to touch, kind of like how Congressional Democrats ultimately endorsed right-wing attacks on groups like MoveOn.org over the past few years (i.e. "Betrayus").

That's why I hate to hear Democrats talking about "left wing extremists" when we have only seen regular liberal arguments like Medicare for All coming from the current "left."

That's why I don't like the-- "we need to set aside the extremes on both sides" arguments. Because the extreme left wing side is not represented at all. That would be to fully nationalize the healthcare system, eliminate private health insurance, and make medical care free to all.

The right hates on them as much as they do ACORN.

Workers don't need rights b/c employers always have their worker's best interests in mind ya know.:eyes:

The last thing the republicans want is for poor folks to organize and develop leadership.
Because these leaders become almost always democrats and they are not as likely to sit and wait
for the crumbs to fall off their table.

Democrats
with
guts.....

a nice idea...................

. . . by convincing their teabagging minions that ACORN rigged the votes. No real evidence needed for their intended audience . . . just the implication.

when Obama was a child.

I always knew of it as an organization that helps the urban poor organize for better housing, better schools, and jobs.

People on the left have known about it forever, but it's not well known to the general public, so it made the perfect target for right-wing demonization, because, as we know, no true wingnut ever does fact checks. Therefore, if Rush were to say that ACORN was a front for space aliens trying to assimilate earthlings, the flighty righties would be writing THAT on newspaper websites.

They know they can't say that term, so they invest all their racist bile in things like ACORN lambasting.

I see.

Seriously, all these tea baggers are racists who would love to just let the N word fly nonstop. When they say ACORN, everyone they're imagining is black, on welfare, and having babies.

It's sick, ain't it? :puke:

The census because they don't want everyone counted correctly. All of this relates to how they can redistrict in states and how the money is distributed in this country. RepubliCONS don't want anything distributed correctly and they want to continue to steal elections.

They require a faceless horde of barbarians at the gate to maintain their world view. They have al these conspiracies theories that require shadowy organizations. And they need scapegoats.

Acorn got picked. Simple as that.