AP Poll: 54% blame Bush for recession, 20% blame Obama

scheming daemons

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:02 PM
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AP Poll: 54% blame Bush for recession, 20% blame Obama

....19% blame Clinton.

The full story and other numbers in the poll:

http://www.latimes.com/business/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-us-meltdown-ap-poll,0,5920615.story

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marmar

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:03 PM
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1. Guess that makes it kinda hard for Newt GinGrinch to call it the Obama Recession.

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Kansas Wyatt

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:04 PM
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2. Almost half of America is stupid?

:shrug:

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zbdent

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:09 PM
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4. ill-informed ...

one quarter is stupid ... at most.

Or, willfully ignorant ... they'd gouge out their own eyes with a rusted spoon before they'd admit that their party destroyed the country ...

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BlooInBloo

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:24 PM
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15. Nah. More like 80% or more.

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whathehell

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:51 PM
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25. At this point I'm just glad it's ONLY half!

Just OVER half, actually....I'm relieved to find it was all of 54 percent!

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:08 PM
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3. About that 19% ...

His signature on NAFTA will forever haunt Clinton.

If they blame Clinton, then they must also blame Rush Limbaugh, who is on record for supporting the North American Free Trade Agreement. Competition is a good thing, don't you know.

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Drunken Irishman

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:10 PM
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7. That's just it. I can at least in some warped way understand the 19% view.

Because at least Clinton WAS president prior to the recession and had a hand in some of the economic issues that faced the country leading up to it.

I might not agree with that claim, but it's logical.

To say Pres. Obama caused this recession, when he was fucking Candidate Obama when the recession hit, defies logic.

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:18 PM
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10. Defies logic.

I am comforted that only 20% are thusly logic-impaired. There can be common ground between faith and logic, but it is not a requirement.

May god's will be done. And they have fashioned their god after their own image.

Cure thyself.

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Enthusiast

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:49 PM
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23. It matters little

that it defies logic. Limbaugh was peddling the "Obama's recession" idiocy by late November. His listeners, the same people that subscribe to the birther nonsense, were lapping it up and repeating it to everyone that would listen.

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zbdent

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:11 PM
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8. Actually, they'd have more blame for McCain

Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 12:13 PM by zbdent

I'll check to find his remarks glorifying the great good that NAFTA will impart on the country, and the Repugs should get the credit for it ...

edited to add - link to me posting (in 2008) about what John McCain said in 1993 ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3188232

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:26 PM
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16. Still there is that signature.

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zbdent

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:32 PM
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17. but they don't blame Bush for the billions GIVEN to banks with Bush's signature ...

What Obama signed was loans ... the "liberal media" tends to forget to make that distinction ...

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:41 PM
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19. Clinton signed NAFTA.

Sorry that my reference was vague.

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zbdent

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:46 PM
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21. I got that ... but the Repugs blame Pelosi/Dems for what Bush signed in 2008

Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 12:47 PM by zbdent

and they try to make it look like Obama started the recession/depression by his lonesome in December 2007 ...

edited to add:

and Clinton's signing of what George H.W. Bush had pretty much negotiated became cannon fodder for the Repugs to blast, and alienate Dems from Clinton.

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:51 PM
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24. True.

And Republicans tend to believe Republicans.

Clinton and George H.W. Bush: Bipartisanship, and what it buys us ...
equal share of the blame, maybe?

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w4rma

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:34 PM
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39. Yup. NAFTA is the single largest reason I never even considered voting for Sen. Clinton.

Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:36 PM by w4rma

In fact, I opposed her and the 'free' traders she let into her administration in any way that I could.

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Drunken Irishman

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:09 PM
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5. How could 20% of Americans blame Obama when he wasn't even fucking Prez yet when it started?

Are they goddamn morons? You know what, I support death panels. Euthanize these twits.

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Parker CA

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:12 PM
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9. Surprisingly it's about 6-8% below the typical extreme right vote, but we also have 19% who

believe it was Clinton's fault, so you still have a point. Some people just don't have brains that allow facts to penetrate them. Scary world it must be in those minds.

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Oregone

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:57 PM
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27. Well, that correlates to the same amount that blame him for Pearl Harbor

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ThisThreadIsSatire

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:10 PM
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6. I blame Al Gore...

It shouldn't have been close enough to steal....

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:23 PM
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12. I blame myself.

I voted for Gore and that is

all
I
did.

Blame the candidate, if you will. I will never make that same mistake again. Even if the better candidate hasn't inspired me to fall in love, I won't stand still for the very sad alternative again.

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scheming daemons

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:34 PM
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18. I blame Ralph Nader supporters

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:45 PM
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20. How about H. Ross Perot?

I am beginning to enjoy this blame game. It's oddly amusing.

It's okay that they blame Clinton. I blame Ronald Ray Gun. Seriously.

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PSzymeczek

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:16 PM
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36. I do, too!

He started this crap.

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bigwillq

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:46 PM
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22. Why?

:shrug:

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:57 PM
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28. 18.91%

H. Ross Perot won 18.91% of the popular vote in 1992. I have to wonder about the overlap for these two polling groups.

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bigwillq

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:02 PM
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31. My "why" wasn't about Perot (nt)

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LiberalAndProud

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:21 PM
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37. Reagan then?

I can only begin to count the ways...

The campaign: Wasteful government. Get the government out of America's way. I will personally do away with all government and it will cut your unpatriotic taxes. "I'm with the government and I'm here to help," scary scary.

Regulation is bad. Industry will regulate industry. Profit is good and deficits don't matter.

And then there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

I don't like him much, you know?

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bigwillq

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:27 PM
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38. Nader supporters (nt)

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theophilus

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:20 PM
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11. Anyone blaming Mr. Obama for the Recession is a BM.....braindead moron. n/t

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Bleacher Creature

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:23 PM
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14. You're being too generous to them. NT

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OHdem10

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:23 PM
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13. That 20% corresponds to the % of hard core Republicans.

These are persons who pretended Bush never did one thing wrong.
They blame Democrats no matter what.

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Oregone

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:56 PM
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26. At what time does anyone blam corporate America?

And the corporatist lawmakers that aid them? Bush was a shitty president and all, but this was pretty well inevitable (to some degree or another)

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Arugula Latte

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:58 PM
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29. It's crazy to blame Clinton ... Everybody knows it's Clinton's penis's fault.

The Clenis is all-powerful.

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lpbk2713

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Mon Sep-14-09 12:59 PM
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30. The twenty percenters are still with us.

And they probably always will be.

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bigwillq

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:03 PM
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32. And, to me, that's a good thing.

Not that I agree with their views, but the alternative is a one-party system. How is that good for America? :shrug:

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johnnie

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:07 PM
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33. I saw a poll by the repukes..

It had

67% blame Obama
53% blame Bill Clinton
45% blame Hillery Clinton and
61% blame Micheal Moore

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lpbk2713

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Mon Sep-14-09 02:13 PM
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42. Um ... that works out to 226%

... and it doesn't even include Keith or Rachel.

Typical rethuglican poll. :eyes:

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ginnyinWI

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:10 PM
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34. I like the way Obama keeps reminding us

that there was big trouble when he "walked in the door" and doesn't mince words about blaming "the previous administration" without ever having to name the name! Classy way to get the point across.

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Nikki Stone1

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Mon Sep-14-09 01:13 PM
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35. The 20% who listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. have been TOLD it's Obama's recession

Color me not surprised.

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samsingh

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Mon Sep-14-09 02:07 PM
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40. how does any thinking person blame anyone else but bush ?

i think my question is answered

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samsingh

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Mon Sep-14-09 02:07 PM
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41. how does any thinking person blame anyone else but bush ?

i think my question is answered

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