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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:14 AM Original message |
Rich Kid, Poor Kid - Who gets the education? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. Blog entries like this bother me because there seems to be this implicit |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You miss the point. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Maybe I am, but poor kids have to know the basics too so that they |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. 'Implied' by whom, the writer, OR THE EDUCATION SYSTEM? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. in this case the writer. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I don't think the teacher is acquiescing to anything. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. sophmore in high school. that is about the place, right there, student decides done |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Here is an example of her acquiescence. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. people who can't read don't necessarily lack critical thinking skills. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I wasn't trying to dis anyone. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I wasn't suggesting that, I understand what you mean |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Okay. Thanks... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. of course not. and kids who fail in school doesnt mean they have a low iq and |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. As I see it, there will be change. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. but i gotta ask |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. In my view, the real problem that should be addressed first |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. exactly. you are exactly right on. all the rest is waste of time, because |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Of course, but not being able to read, understand functions, basic math, etc. makes problem and |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. If you mean acquiescence as conforming to what |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I believe her point is that these tests produce statistics, not learning. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I think her point is |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. exactly. data not gonna change. so now, we are left with doing the tough stuff |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I think that's only part of her point.... |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. When your parents are fighting about money it is hard to learn |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That is sadly the truth for |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Doesn't all that point to the need for teachers to spend more time on the basics |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. what i really see the problem is, if the education is not valued and reinforced in home |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I agree, |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Of course they need the basics. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. true that. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. the truth, yes. sanatized too. when having only one parent or no parent |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. I thought MAP testing was administered to give teachers ... |
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