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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:54 AM Original message |
Death penalty opponents: I'd like your opinion |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. Life, no parole. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. +1 |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Here, too. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
91. Indeed. nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not against the DP because I feel sorry for the condemned |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. +1 |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Exactly - I couldn't give a rats ass to the condemned |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. + another 1. nt. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. that's my problem too, basically |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Well said. Executing someone will not bring the victims back to life |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
84. +100000 |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. life in prison without any opportunity for parole |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. Remove him from society permanently |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I think that makes you a DP refusenik :p |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. Life with no parole. |
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Resuscitated Ethics (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. "closure" from state-sponsored revenge killing is a myth |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Life without parole |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
10. I have no problems with Death Penalty in some situations but since it is divisive |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
11. There are two questions here... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Thanks. I would ask you, |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Of course it's not "fair" but fairness isn't the issue... |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
69. It is not fair, but killing him won't bring anyone back.... |
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judy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. The death penalty would do nothing but add one more murder |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. my question for you is "what do you hope to achieve...?" |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Thanks for your reply. I would ask you, |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. yes I do think that's "fair...." |
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conturnedpro09 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. "Rehabilitating" a murderer/rapist and setting him free would not be just at all. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
74. Revenge is not the same thing as justice. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
75. I think maybe you took a wrong turn on you way to FR, my friend.... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. 12 people were just as sure that Cameron Todd Willingham was guilty |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. Life, no parole. The heinousness of the crime is immaterial. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. if one innocent is murdered by the state then we are equal to this man. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. What's with you people? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. there you go on justifying murder. if that isnt a convoluted way of declaring |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'm sorry, has an innocent person been executed by the state? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Yes to both questions. |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. It sounds like the results are inconclusive and still being |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. You're kidding, right? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. You're assuming that the state can never do anything unlawful |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
61. I don't believe there's such a thing as a "lawful" taking of a life. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. i cannot believe a person can justify murdering an innocent person. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #36 |
71. You sound like Scalia. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. That's an emotional tactic that many share with the ANTI-CHOICE crowd... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
22. If you're not opposed to the DP in all cases... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Fine, but, |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Fair to whom?... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You might rethink the part about protecting society. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. I suspect I know what Jesus' answer would be. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
62. It's a lot more fair than a quick end. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
94. There is no "fair" in life. That's why we have juctice. nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
93. Well said, very well said. nt |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Life without parole. n/t |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
28. Life, no parole. nt |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
30. Life. No parole |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm not liberal enough for life in prison for a crime like this |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
59. And I'm not authoritarian enough to endorse The State killing its citizens.... |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Just how many Timothy McVeighs would you feed? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. To avoid becoming a McVeigh, killing innocent Americans myself? I'll feed all of them. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. And you would tell the mothers of the murdered children . . .? n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. That the person who did it will never do it again - about all you can say... |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. The death penalty should never, ever be used |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Here's the flaws in your reasoning |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Walk the walk then talk to me |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Too bad I didn't see this before you were done with it |
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GodlyDemocrat (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. Putting the religious pro-life argument aside for just a second |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. I would leave a choice of DP or life without parole to the family |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. who is the state to take a life? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. An appropriate punishment would be to let the victim's relative rape and stab the guy to death |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'd like your opinion on Alessandro Serenelli. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'd better stay out of this thread... |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. There is no "appropriate" penalty |
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Silver Swan (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
43. I do not believe in the death penalty. |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
44. Life no parole. Ever. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not the death penalty. (n/t) |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. Life, no parole. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. I oppose the death penalty. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. Life with absolutely |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. The appropriate penalty is punishment for the remainder of his days. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
56. To kill someone as punishment for killing someone just doesn't make sense to me. nt |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
60. Taking that man's life won't bring any kind of closure to those girl's |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. Here's another "real event": |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
64. Life imprisonment with no hope of parole seems pointless to me |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Oops. Sorry. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
67. Death |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
68. It's about dignity |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
72. My opinion (for whatever it is worth) |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
73. A ban against the Death Penalty save ME from MY baser instincts/desires!!! |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. The death penalty is always wrong |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. Warden Clinton Duffy |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
80. Life in prison with no parole |
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
83. Life in Solitary without Parole |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
85. If my child or loved one was murdered I would want to see the killer dead |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 03:01 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Holy shit. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
90. Life without parole, for all the usual reasons. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
92. A moral absolute is not degraded by individual cases |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
96. I was opposed to the death penalty until Polly Klass. That monster needs to go. n/t |
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