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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:23 PM Original message |
Let's face it, folks, ACORN 2009 is just like John Edwards 2008... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. not for me... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. maybe the skeptics and apologists will listen to stewart |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. By those standards, there isn't a non-corrupt insitutiton in the whole world |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Then they need a SERIOUS overhaul or another organization needs to take their place. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:31 PM Original message |
i agree |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. Just because the right-wingers are making a fuss |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. What a great argument. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. But our party's moderates don't like ACORN either. That money is for corporations. |
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Pyrzqxgl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I'm going to wait to have an opinion till things are a little clearer. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. i don't have a problem with that |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Stewart also called Joe Wilson's outburst "Truth Tourrett's" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. What's Jon's evidence that they're "largely" corrupt? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Here's the list of crimes the repubs are spouting... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Do you think Jon uses RWnutbag BS as his evidence? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. It's called the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 05:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. It's a Republican staff report, not a Committee report. The quality of the report can be judged |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. "Is ACORN intentionally structured as a criminal enterprise?" |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I'm in Texas.. I don't have to find those links, they find me. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So what? They're insane. Dems need to learn to stop readily moving to our back foot. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Nope.. Just making it clear where the right stands on this an why |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I stay away from the 'dining room table' types. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Good for you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. LOL... I don't consider idiocy "welcome discussion". |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Its laughable |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. DUers have been asking "how high?" every time the media says "jump!" for years. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 05:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Wait! They've stopped accusing ACORN of causing the financial market collapse last year? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. the same evidence we've been posting and is staring everybody in the face |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. So... because a few staffers acted badly... the whole org is "largely corrupt"? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. i'm not going to keep repeating the same argument |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. So... it's a few staffers at ... what percent of their locations which were targeted? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It doesn't matter |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Oh yes it does, if you're going to call them "largely corrupt." (nt) |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Don't look now, but you're using the "Bad Apples" argument the White House made after Abu Ghraib. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Yes, I know. Only this time it makes sense. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. if they had their own TV network |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's amazing how much power Fox News has. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. It's funny because DUers bitch every time *other* Democrats jump at anything republicans say. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your going on that evidence alone? I would sure hate to have you on a jury |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. Several cities? Link please? I thought this was just Baltimore, where the filmsters broke |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Baltimore, D.C., NY and LA so far I believe. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Add San Bernardino, CA to the list |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 05:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. "OMG! ACORN hires older women, who I don't think are pretty! Shut them down!" |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Now add San Diego, CA |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. ... Lagstein, ACORN's head San Diego County organizer, said the employee would give his side of the |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'd hate to see the baby thrown out with the bath water because ACORN, in my opinion... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. They got a big thing wrong this time. No excuse for it. eom |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. John Edwards is a good analogy. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not really... he's one person, in charge of his decision making. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. Reich-wingers have been after ACORN for decades. It is the fact that ACORN advocates for the |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. No, it's who they reach and protect that drives the right crazy. |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Yep, they were helping to eliminate predatory and fraudulent mortgage loans... |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. It is more because ACORN advocates for the democrtic party |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. And people here |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 06:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. The source in your Republican staff report for claims of partisan activity by ACORN is Glenn Beck |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. What? Is Glenn Beck no longer a trusted source around here? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. Let's face it folks, Al Gore will never win the Nobel Peace Prize. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Apples and Oranges and you know it. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Not apples and oranges. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. ACORN is wounded and will have to rehab. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. Aaargh. could we please not throw the baby out with the bathwater? |
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Beacho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. Let's Face It, ACORN is here to stay |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
57. The "name" may go in both cases, but the people in the organizations will continue |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
61. TOTALLY WRONG! |
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