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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:11 PM Original message |
What's behind lower and lower-middle class white racism? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. I see no reason to believe lower class whites are any more racist than anyone else. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That's not what I said. Please re-read my post. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You said, "It's a lot easier for angry working class whites to choose this simplistic explanation... |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I was referring to the 912 rally types, NOT all working class whites. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
47. Affirmative action... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's easy and people with nothing to be proud of will be proud of the stupidest things. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. There are a whole lot of people with lots of hate in them. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, it's because working class people are stoopid |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Way to pick one phrase and characterize my whole post by it. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. You're explaining your gfather's racism by calling workers stupid |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I can find at least one stupid person on this thread. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You said your gfather had "an actual, real target for his hate" |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I also said he reached the wrong conclusion and hated another victim. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. flamebait my steel toed boots |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Simple Answer |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. fortunately i was raised in a democratic |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. So are you saying that because working class whites aren't very intelligent, they are racist? |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I am saying that the ones who are racist are not intelligent. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. lack of empathy |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. Fear and poverty and |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Gramscian hegemony theory. nt |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. The exact same way you can label a group "angry middle class whites" |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. That's NOT what I said. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is a lot of people being dismissed by this statement, sparky: |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. See, it's this kind of banal nitpicking... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Granted, I did not know Grandpa - but most people? Awesome! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. There is no particular reason why a white person is worthier of a job |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Do you have to compete with low wage mexican workers? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I don't see a way around it |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. My father went to all boy/ all white schools in Houston. The first meaningful contact with black men |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. racism was a huge problem at my high school |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Ah, you had me until the last part. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No, but hating others who did something about it is. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
28. Working class whites have lost their unions and purchasing power and are being bated by |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. +10000000000 |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think there are powerful forces in our society |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. the same things behind middle and upper class racism |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
35. Some People Believe In Phony Racial Solidarity |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. the racism that seems so rampant to me can be found among the elite - our legislators, |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
37. Very good explanation and I think you are on to something. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Exactly...I was going to reply that it was due to the Dixiefication of America |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. Fear, just plain and simple. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. They ENJOY being mean. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. So, did your grandfather remain unemployed forever? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
43. Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" explains it well |
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TheCentepedeShoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. Something I heard |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I heard that one ALOT |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
46. According to many on DU, there can be no such thing because they are not powerful. nt. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
48. Primitive thinking, IMO. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-18-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
49. scapegoating |
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