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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:50 PM
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Questions for pro-legalization fans
If drugs were to become legal how would that work, exactly?

Where would the drugs come from? How would they be sold? How would drugs be kept out of the hands of minors? And so forth...
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:51 PM
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1. How does it work with alcohol, now?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:53 PM
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2. California has very liberal alcohol laws
Somehow I cannot see a future where hard drugs are sold on shelves in the grocery store. :shrug:
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:54 PM
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5. We have a big pro-legal hard-drug crowd here?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:56 PM
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7. I stand out - I'm for 100% legalization
Heroin, Cocaine, Morphine, LSD, Roofies, all of them

Criminalizing them does no good
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:07 PM
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14. Especially when the hard drugs are a small minority of drugs
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:37 PM
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22. me too WOD is bullshit
and that means all drugs. Label them. Warn the heck out of the adult users. Provide treatment on demand paid for by taxes on the sale of dangerous drugs like alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, heroin and methadrine.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:53 PM
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3. I imagine it would be like medical marijuana here in CA
You'd have stores that are licensed to sell, only adults
would be allowed to purchase products, tax would be paid.
I saw an interesting doco on CNBC over the weekend that
also profiled a grower from Northern California who said
he treats his weed like any other crop -- and he pays
HEALTH INSURANCE for his employees!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:53 PM
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4. They would come from where ever they come from. They would be sold in pharmacies to any adult
They would be taxed but still cheaper than now because all the graft would be removed.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:55 PM
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6. think booze. think drugs....drug stores are on just about every corner
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:57 PM
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8. Same as OTC drugs, cigarettes, liquor, beer, wine.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:59 PM
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9. It WON'T work, till we have a present level of intoxication test first.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:06 PM
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13. ROFL
Tens of millions smoke pot now, and there's no test.

What's the sense in feeding gangs and organized crime billions over it?
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:11 PM
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27. You can rofl all you want, get into an accident, and you will suffer
Whether or not you had touched a whiff for over a month.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:37 PM
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23. Oh, if only future scientist will hurry up and invent some sort of field sobriety test.


An artist's rendition of what such a profound advancement in human technology may look like.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:21 PM
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29. You think you arent going to get blood taken?
If you get into an accident at work, they draw blood. If you get into an accidnt where someone was killed or not, WHETHER or not it is your fault, you will be tested. And it might be manslauter. Fun huh? And I know a thing or two. I am a patient.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:19 PM
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28. ROFL all you want, get into an accident, at work or on the road
and you WILL find out the shortcomings in our present logistics.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:00 PM
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10. From under my solar-powered metal-halide grow lights.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:25 PM
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18. Don't flower under your MH though.
;)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:01 PM
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11. as far as keeping drugs out of the hands of minors..
I started doing drugs at around age 13 and I NEVER had problems getting them illegally as a minor and I grew up in the BOONIES. I am sure if drugs became legal the minors would be able to find adults to buy the drugs for them. i used to have adults buy me alcohol when i was underage. minors will get the drugs either way, legal or illegal.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:05 PM
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12. It would work like this...
Speaking for pot, as it's 90+% of illegal drugs...

It would be grown here by farmers.

It would be kept out of kids hands like Alcohol is. Right now it's far easier for a kid to get pot than beer, on any school campus even. Has been since I was a kid in the 70's and bought it at school.

It would be taxed and stamped, priced and taxed at a level that makes illegal distribution not worth the risk.

The largest benefit would be the hit to gangs and organized crime taking away their income. Not the income from taxes IMO.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:13 PM
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16. But the question is - how *do you* keep it out of kids hands - anybody
can grow cannabis, albeit it's not that good outdoors, but yummy if grown indoors. I really don't see how to do that, but please don't tell me we'll start using "it's for the children" on this crap too, decriminalizing/legalizing cannabis. I too am for legalizing it all, everything, and then selling it at pharmacies. There was a socialist newsletter back in the 1980s "New Beginnings" and this was the topic - how to do legalize everything. Very interesting.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:16 PM
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17. You don't. We've never been able to, and will never be able to.
Kids will smoke it of they want to, the only way to stop that is to convince them not to. It's called education.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:22 PM
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30. When you mainstream the process, fewer kids will get it.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:10 PM
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15. But what about the children????
How could we possibly stop fighting the unwinnable counter-productive drug war? We gotta do it. For the kids.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:30 PM
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19. I'm in favor of Cannabis legalization and decriminalization for the rest
Cannabis cultivation and distribution is already well established in the MMJ states. It's very simple and straightforward. We don't even need commercial farms and processing.

I must admit I haven't thought much about the other drugs. I guess ideally they'd have to be controlled through prescription.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:34 PM
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20. You go to the drug and liquor store and buy your drugs there.
next question.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:34 PM
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21. Same way it's done now, only better.
"Where would the drugs come from?"

Pot, opium, and heroin would come from people growing it in their backyards.

Coke would be imported from South America.

Meth would be produced in well equipped labs with safety features.

"How would they be sold?"

Craigslist.

"How would drugs be kept out of the hands of minors?"

By asking them not to do it. The same way they've done it in countries that have decriminalized drugs, and saw no increase in childhood use.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:37 PM
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24. my backyard. not sold to anyone. but maybe like liquor store and cigarette sales.
there are laws about that.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:38 PM
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25. as far as pot goes
from my garden :evilgrin:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:02 PM
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26. I would imagine it working the way legal drugs work now.
Licensed dispensers with restrictions for age and availability, even for "over the counter" medications, as well as more prescriptions required for medicinal drugs. Most drugs are produced by farming, so buy from the farmers, process, and sell through a drug store.
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