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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:35 PM
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ABC Nightline: Texas executed an INNOCENT man! How much more proof is needed?
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 11:39 PM by Bozita
You gotta see the video. The local fire investigator will scare you. The prosecutor, now a judge, will scare the living hell out of you.

You can't watch this Nightline and still buy into the whole death penalty thing.

Governor Perry doesn't get a do-over.

I think I need a fucking shower.


http://abcnews.go.com/nightline


A Life Cut Short: Todd Willingham
Cameron Todd Willingham, who went by Todd, with his wife, Stacy. The couple's three children died in a fire Dec. 23, 1991, at the family's Corsicana, Texas, home. Willingham was accused of arson and tried for murder.
Watch the full story tonight on "Nightline" at 11:35 p.m ET
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:44 PM
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1. Yah - this came out a few weeks ago. DP supporters simply don't care about killing innocents....
They want blood, and nothing will change that.

RIP to Mr. Willingham.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:47 PM
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3. I care.

Flaws in the system that lead to innocent deaths are the only thing that gives me pause about my support for the death penalty.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:51 PM
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6. I'm sure Mr. Willingham appreciates your pause.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:46 PM
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2. K&R
:cry:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:50 PM
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4. Sad thing is, too many down there don't care.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:50 PM
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5. Recommend
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:00 AM
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7. This is a bold move by ABC. ... Wonderin' is this is a MSM distraction. HC is at a critical point.
We've got a missing Yale girl. Oops, they've got the killer.

Anybody seen any sharks lately?

Look, look.

It's shiny and sparkly.

Ooooo ...
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:05 AM
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8. I use to be one of those
people that were on the fence, tended to favor the DP. As a matter of fact, I still believe that there are some people out there who really deserve the DP as punishment. However, the DP is not infallible and it is prone to error since it is run my mere, mortal men, and not GOD (although there are plenty of State justice systems who like to pretend they are just that) and this incident, or more appropriately, this travesty only drives home that point.
Until the system can be eliminated 100% of human error (which it obviously never can) the DP needs to be abolished. Not to mention the fact that states like Texas have some of the highest crime rates in the country despite the fact that they have a veritable express lane for the DP.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:24 AM
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9. K&R
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:57 AM
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10. Wow....that prosecutor (now a judge) is a real piece of work
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 07:58 AM by Zodiak
Smiling smugly as he dismisses all evidence that he sent an innocent man to his death.

What an unbelievable unjustice! The guy was convicted based on bad science and the fact that he was a fan of Iron Maiden, and even though it has turned out that the science was discredited (not to mention that Maiden fans do not "worship the devil"), these smug jerks STILL think what they did was right.

They killed a man because they do not understand fires and they certainly do not understand heavy metal.......it is the same mentality that Inquisitors have, not men of the law.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 08:24 AM
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11. The Devil is real
And he's sittin' in Texass, lookin' like smilin' Bob.

Frank Sheaffer is so right - the facts simply do not matter to these monsters. The arson investigator sees pentagrams everywhere, and distrusts science... And that "man" is an expert witness, whose opinions carry the force of law.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 08:28 AM
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12. So sick!
:cry:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:09 AM
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13. A society that is run by barbarians uses the death penatlty. A
society that is run by laws does not!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:12 AM
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14. +1 ("civilized" barbarians)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:13 AM
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15. Maybe this case can help to end the use of the death penalty in this country.
RIP Todd Willingham.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:15 AM
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16. The Death Penalty doesn't do a damn thing to deter murder some of the biggest murder stats are in
states that have the death penalty. Furthermore the criminal justice system is hardly perfect and innocent people do get convicted. Even if one person is executed for a crime they didn't commit that is one too many. Do away with the death penalty. It won't bring anybody back. I still think prison with no parole should be the case with convicted murderers.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:36 AM
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17. Those are some sick, bloodthirsty barbarians...
...in Texas. There is no justice in this world.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 12:53 PM
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18. Texas puts to death as many innocent as guilty through the Law of Parties.
If you're on your way home from buying pot and you drop off a friend at a liquor store and he gets into a fight and kills someone: welcome to death row.
If you catch a ride to the corner store with a friend and that friend picks up a stranger who asks to stop at a convenience store and open fires on the clerk while you're pumping gas: welcome to death row.

Some people on death row in Texas were home with their families at the time a murder goes down. Because they were in the car early that day or at a party with the criminal, they can be charged under law of parties. It's a kill-em-all-let-god-sort-em-out thing. Step 1. Round up everyone who could've been involved. Step 2. Execute group one.

Seriously: I won't give rides to people I don't know in Texas.
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