I hate to ask this but if something happens to our President or others near him, can

glinda

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:00 PM
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I hate to ask this but if something happens to our President or others near him, can

Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 08:01 PM by glinda

those who have been inciting hatred and fanning the flames of violence be held legally responsible (Politicians and Media persons)? I am thinking that the only reason that they are blaming Pelosi right now is that they plan/count on a violent attack and that they do not want to be held responsible in any way.

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virgogal

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:02 PM
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1. No---Remember Freedom of Speech?

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kestrel91316

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:04 PM
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2. I suspect incitement to commit murder would be an exception. You ARE

aware that there are limits to free speech, as there SHOULD be in a civilized society, right?

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Eric J in MN

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:08 PM
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3. It's illegal to say, "I urge you to kill" someone but legal to incite hatred. NT

Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 08:09 PM by Eric J in MN

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glinda

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Fri Sep-18-09 10:36 PM
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9. But is it legal to incite hatred given the power of the airwaves against the symbol of our Country?

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Eric J in MN

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Sat Sep-19-09 10:02 AM
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10. Yes. NT

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glinda

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Sat Sep-19-09 03:02 PM
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12. Ca you site the law that allows this? I thought attempts to overthrow Gov. and incite riots

and hate speech was illegal. When did these things become law other than when the Repugs said so.

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sat Sep-19-09 03:04 PM
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13. What law prohibits it?

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Eric J in MN

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Sat Sep-19-09 05:26 PM
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15. In the US...

...inciting a riot is illegal and so is an attempt to overthrow the government.

However, hate speech is legal in the US, unlike in Canada and Europe.

A relevant Supreme Court case involves neo-Nazis being allowed to march in Skokie, Illinois in the 1970s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

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glinda

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Mon Sep-21-09 12:16 AM
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17. What if hate speech is used to incite a riot, commit a murder or to overthrow Government?

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virgogal

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:11 PM
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4. Of course,but who has even suggested murder? I'm not aware

of it but I'm not as informed as most.

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Louisiana1976

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:13 PM
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5. Yes--like against yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theatre.

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anigbrowl

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Fri Sep-18-09 09:11 PM
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8. True, but incitement has a very narrow definition

If I say kestrel91316 is bad, bad for America, bad for you, that doesn't mean I'm inciting anyone to violence. But say it long enough and often enough and someone may take it into their head to commit violence. You won't be able to prosecute anyone just for expressing dislike or disapproval though, the legal bar for incitement is set pretty high.

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sat Sep-19-09 03:05 PM
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14. It's already illegal. If they were doing as you suggest, they could be arrested now.

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unkachuck

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:15 PM
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6. oooooo....

....enough with the bad vibes and negative thoughts....you're making my palms sweat....

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cliffordu

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Fri Sep-18-09 08:18 PM
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7. Held responsible by mobs of rioters.....

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Bandit

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Sat Sep-19-09 10:12 AM
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11. Maybe by the same actions toward them they helped to incite

"What comes around goes around" :shrug:

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Overseas

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Sat Sep-19-09 05:31 PM
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16. It is ironic to see reporters on Fox, home of Beck who talked about poisoning Pelosi,

trying to shift blame for possible future violence on to her because she warned against the angry rhetoric they are spewing daily.

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