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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:35 PM
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Citibank layoff kills self and kids
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-thousand-oaks18-2009sep18,0,5631622.story

In Thousand Oaks, a father does the unthinkable
Distraught over his divorce and job loss, James Mulvaney killed his children and then himself, authorities say.


Distraught over his divorce and the loss of his job, James Mulvaney did the unthinkable, Ventura County authorities say.

Sometime after his ex-wife dropped their two children off at his Thousand Oaks apartment Tuesday, Mulvaney stabbed 12-year-old Jason and 7-year-old Jennifer to death in their bedrooms.

The 52-year-old father then took his own life by overdosing on prescription pills, a preliminary review Thursday by the county medical examiner's office indicates.

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Autopsies revealed that the children died of multiple stab wounds, Sheriff's Det. Eric Buschow said. The killings were so frenzied that the scene in the children's bedrooms shook even seasoned homicide investigators.

"Whatever took place in there was horrific," Buschow said.

Investigators are calling it a murder-suicide. They didn't find a suicide note and said Mulvaney had no criminal record.

But court records show that Mulvaney and his ex-wife, Julie Mulvaney, had been battling in court over child custody, the sale of a home and financial issues for more than a year.

Then, in early September, Mulvaney was let go from a senior position at Citibank in Camarillo, a job he'd held for more than a decade, a bank source said. A Citibank spokesman confirmed that Mulvaney was a former employee but declined to provide any other information about him.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:37 PM
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1. Why the kids? I never get it when people do this.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:38 PM
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5. no shit!! leave the kids out of it
selfish bastards
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:40 PM
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7. In this case I suspect
it was a shot at the estranged wife. And landed too, I bet.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:41 PM
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8. she found the bodies
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:41 PM
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10. Why?
To get back at their mother, of course. The report that the killings were "frenzied" tells you how much he hated his ex-wife.

No, it's not sane. But that's what people get to be when they go through prolonged custody battles.

It becomes a matter of "If I can't have them, you can't, either" and "Look what you made me do."

He succeeded very nicely on both fronts, don't you agree?

Monster. Selfish fucking monster coward..............................
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:45 PM
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11. ' Monster. Selfish fucking monster coward.'
you nailed it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:12 PM
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23. To spare them perceived pain...
Whether it be personal, ambient, environmental, or societal, perhaps?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:37 PM
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2. why do these fucks feel the need to destroy their children
before offing themselves. Seriously, what is the drive at work here?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:46 PM
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12. Could it be they think their children would be screwed up by their own suicides
so they think, in their twisted minds, that this is better for them? That they're doing what is best?

I also wonder whether they are projecting their own shame onto the children—they think their children would be ashamed of them, so they 'solve' that problem this way. It's hubristic & horribly self-centered, that's for sure.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:48 PM
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13. Then why did he give them a 'peaceful' death by pills like he gave himself? he killed then in a
frenzy.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:48 PM
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16. That's called "the show" -
the show is what a killer leaves behind - in this case, it's a message to the ex-wife (my guess): "Look what you drove me to! Look what you made me do!"
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:48 PM
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14. Hell, no -
that would involve compassion, caring about someone other than themselves.

They're just selfish fucking cowards, that's all, and he was going to show his ex-wife that he had the ultimate power - that he had the ability to ruin the rest of her life.

And he succeeded. Good for him, the fucking pig.............
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:50 PM
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17. Multiple stabs wounds
indicates (to my amateur criminologist mind) an excessive amount of frustration and anger. Taking it out on kids, especially the 7 year old, indicates an unbearable sense of powerlessness to deal with the forces in the grown up world. OD'ing on pills himself (rather than shredding his own wrists) indicates a tremendous cowardice and fear of pain.

Add it all up . . . he was aiming at the estranged wife, saying you might win in court but see if you really like it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:37 PM
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3. They're beginning to pile up.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:38 PM
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4. Oh. My. God. This is heartbreaking. nt
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:39 PM
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6. Even the Nazis
had the decency to take only themselves out before they could be hanged, not their whole damn families.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:48 PM
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15. You haven't seen 'Downfall'
The scene of the general pulling the pins on two grenades right when the family sat down to dinner. Gruesome. And then the four Goebbels children. When some people see their world collapse, they decide to 'spare the children' the overwhelming task of going on. Decency has nothing to do with it; in fact, in their twisted worldview, their last act is done with the whole family in mind.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:08 PM
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22. Nope. Goebbels took out his whole family.
Joseph and Magda Goebbels killed their six young children before they killed themselves, May 1, 1945.

Helga Suzanne, 12
Hildegard Traudel, 11
Helmut Christian, 9
Holdine Kathrin, 8
Hedwig Johanna, 6
Heidrun Elisabeth, 4


Bastards.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:41 PM
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9. I think by killing the kids he was sending a message to his x-wife... Horrible....
But the fact is he was sending a message that I get the last word, not you......... I also hate this train of thought.... The kids are/were innocent in all of this, and yet they were victimized twice....
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abelenkpe2 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:55 PM
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18. RIP children
Such a sad sad story.
Why?


Why?
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:56 PM
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19. What a selfish fuck!
If you're gonna off yourself, leave your fucking kids out of it, you dead coward.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:00 PM
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20. Dude...off yourself
save your kids
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:06 PM
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21. Horrible.
Sick, why would he kill his kids like that?
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:14 PM
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24. very
sad.
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