Americans Who DISAGREE With President Are A THREAT

2 Ejected From Bush Speech Posed a Threat, Lawyers Say

By DAN FROSCH
Published: April 15, 2007

DENVER, April 13 — Lawyers for two men charged with illegally ejecting two people from a speech by President Bush in 2005 are arguing that the president’s staff can lawfully remove anyone who expresses points of view different from his.

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Mr. Casper and Mr. Klinkerman lost their motion for dismissal, and this week their lawyers filed an appeals brief arguing that their clients had the right to take action against Mr. Young and Ms. Weise precisely because the two held views different from Mr. Bush’s.

“They excluded people from a White House event because they posed a threat of being disruptive,” said a lawyer for Mr. Casper, Sean Gallagher.

more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/us/15eject.html

OK, how 'bout free speech. Ugh, sigh, ugh.

AARP monitors have lately been deleting posts and entire threads on their message boards that are put there by any senior that says anything negative to the Bush Administration while the extreme right-wing bloggers never get deleted. Some of the seniors have actually been suspended and lost their posting rights to the board while right-wing posters continue to post vile, ugly posts and threads.

ever since a lot of seniors spilled the beans on the AARP far-right moderation in that blog entry that made buzzflash.

I posted some about that on here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=30584&mesg_id=30584

They deleted a thread on AARP that was discussing the buzzflash article - even though it was the most civil thread on there! They've kicked off another non-far-righter using their usual MO of not telling her she was kicked off. She realized it when she didn't bother to log-in and the posts she had recently made once visible to her but listed as "deleted" when she wasn't logged in. Yet, they're still repeating the lie that they warn people they're going to be kicked off.

And they let it slip that they're monitoring people's private AARP emails.

who pushed the Big Pharma giveaway we call Medicare Part D.....

AARP lost a lot of members because of their support of that Bush bill.

They still haven't learned their lesson. Witness all the airings of the commercial with the cute children talking about things like Social Security needing fixing when they aren't broke. They've gotten more subtle than they were with the Medifraud Bill, but they're just as determined to break them as they were back then. They know perfectly well that they don't dare be upfront about what their true agenda is or its details. So they're going with commercials designed to make people think there are problems when there aren't in order to make people more receptive to making changes. And they're gradually clearing their board of the posters who point out the truth about Bush and any of the far-right agenda. Here lately they've speeded up their removal of non-far-right posters.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

what an injustice.

And welcome to DU, Charmin!

nice little compounds, no doubt guarded by Blackwater and supplied by Halliburton/KBR and preached at by Revs. Dobson, Haggard, et. al.

Sorry boys - you will lose on this one.

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before the 2000 election.

heck, if they were a threat why aren't they in Gitmo?

Security in this country has gone to hell if people can pose a threat to the pResident and not be thrown in jail forever without a trial. We're doomed!

exporting to Iraq and elsewhere.

They posed a threat..... in their minds only....just as Iraq posed a threat.. I think that second grader down the street will someday do something wrong so I am going to beat the crap out of him... Bush* logic..

I remember arguing with a freeper on another board at the time this happened. He argued that the Secret Service has not only the right, but the obligation to remove anybody that was a potential threat to the POTUS.

Talk about your slippery slope! Who decides who is potentially a threat? We all know: who has declared ex cathedra that he is The Decider.

LOSER.

only wants those who are loyal to him, signing loyalty oaths, he wants everyone to "bow" down to him, sorry bushie this is not a monarchy!!!

IS for crying out loud.

If there were a physical threat, I would agree they should be removed, not just from there, but wherever such a threat is deemed imminent.

Since there was no imminent nor protracted threat of physical action or endangerment, these people, and anyone else has the Right, and possibly the obligation to speak out as Americans.

This should be taken all the way to the USSC if necessary...the only threat they posed was bringing forth the truth, hardly something that should be countered.

people with different opinions. * is an idiot and an impostor who can't deal with any perspective that doesn't match the fantasy world he lives in.

Is far as being an adult goes, I can't say it any better
than you did: * is an idiot and an impostor who can't deal
with any perspective that doesn't match the fantasy world
he lives in.

This attitude comes straight from the top, too. From day one, long before 9-11, Bush's attitude has been "you either agree with me or you're out". That is *not* the way a representative is supposed to comport himself. He's supposed to reflect the will of the people, not just his rabid fans. He's not a king.

he thinks he is. a what psychotic and deluded man.

do these bozos not understand?

i think they understand it fine. however, their view is that they can and should (ab)use the institutions of government to get away with whatever they can get away with. i.e., it's not up to other people and institutions to ensure that they abide by the constitution, and if they can corrupt those other people and institutions, then what's the problem?

this, of course, is exactly how hitler became a dictator. i'm not saying these guys are nazis, but i am saying that these guys learned an awful LOT from the nazis.

Or at least that's the way it seems to me.

:shrug:

I can't believe these people. I have been in awe of their ignorance, arrogance, and malice from the beginning.

Well, you can kind of see the point. It might make George cry if people burst that little bubble protecting his fragile ego.

He's very sensitive. Like an artist.

A CON artist.

Recently there was athread about a far right historian who was 'educating" shrub.

And one of those "lessons" this guy was giving shrub stuck out... the real enemies aren't abroad but right here at home. The real enemies are the ones criticising you.

As they say, a Fish rots from the head down...

bad habits.

...causes too many Americans (including many in the same gov't) to usurp (ie: adjust) their consciences to allow for his malevolent rule without feeling as if they are responsible for it.

Reference: The Milgram Experiment, 1961-62 - Yale University

This is why, I believe, The Sociopath bu$hit's authority is so protected.

... Where Lindsey went to protest a "war", and got put into a steel cage - aka "the free speech zone".

:rofl:

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The Perils of Obedience

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

So, by defailt, anyone who did NOT vote for him, MUST be a threat:)

I'm proud to wear.

I wake up every morning secure in the knowledge that I am an enemy of the Christofascists and pose a threat to ALL of them.