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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:39 PM
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Asked to Denounce Language of Incitement, Boehner Calls for "Rebellion"
Last week, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) recalled how vitriolic language and extremist rallying cries escalated an atmosphere of political tension to the point where the San Francisco mayor and city councilman Harvey Milk were murdered in cold blood. Milk was the first openly gay man to win elected office in the United States, and the murderer was not a deranged member of the lunatic fringe, but a former colleague.

Speaker Pelosi teared up as she recalled the tragedy, and urged everyone involved in today’s political disputes to “curb our enthusiasm” and refrain from using language that might suggest recourse to violence to people who might be “not as stable” as those speaking assume. The press sought comment from Republican House minority leader John Boehner (R-VA), whom they expected would second the Speaker’s call for civility and to refrain from the language of incitement.

But Rep. Boehner’s response was perhaps the most scandalous comment made by any politician in Washington, DC, in recent years. The House minority leader, one of the most influential politicians in the nation, when asked to call for restraint in language that might incite extremists to violence, answered by calling for open “rebellion” against the government run by Pres. Obama.

At rallies around the country, an increasingly hateful tone, complete with visual and rhetorical references to racist slurs against Pres. Obama, has emerged. From hanging the president in effigy (a rhetorical ‘lynching’) to portraying him as an African tribal witch-doctor, a monkey or an old-time minstrel show performer, extremist elements have penetrated conservative rallies against proposed healthcare reforms.

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http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2009/09/19/4468/asked-to-denounce-language-of-incitement-boehner-calls-for-rebellion/

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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:00 PM
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1. He should be called "Boner" always
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 05:08 PM by appal_jack
Enough of the sham that Boehner is pronounced "Bay-ner." It's "Boner" or perhaps a little more drawn-out, like "Boooohhhhnnner."

He wants rebellion? Let's rebel against his sham-rightwing-phonetics.

-app

edit to correct the shortage of quotation marks
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:18 PM
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2. "extremist elements" = GOP
I think that's become pretty clear.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:39 PM
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3. If a leftist calls for rebellion
he is called a Marxist, freedom-hating, anti-American, left-wing looney.

When a reactionary calls for rebellion he is called House Minority Leader.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:51 PM
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4. What are they gonna say when some right wing nutjob parks a truck bomb in front of a health clinic?
Or, for that matter, a federal office building?
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Mythbuster Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:58 PM
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5. Boehner is a piece of shit anyway.
I never have liked that crooked bastard. Every time I see him I briefly mistake him for a televangelist with that orange "suntan in a can" shit all over him. I can see him preaching a money sermon on TV with his little ass kisser minion Eric Cantor sitting behind him randomly blurting out "Can I get an AMEN Brothers!!... oh and send us another hundred bucks or you'll go to HELL!!" :grr:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 06:49 PM
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6. This is an outrage
The piece really needs a direct quote, context and a link though.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 08:06 PM
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7. A verifiable source with a full quote, not out of context, if it was said at all, would be nice.
I'm no lover of Boehner to be sure, but this just smells too fishy for me to put any stock in.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:17 PM
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9. Per the link below -- and numerous others -- guess you're done giving Boehner the benefit
...of the doubt, eh?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:48 AM
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14. Doubting a source in no way is giving Boehner any benefit...
Kind of like I can disbelieve something my kids say about their dad (x-hubby) without feeling at all cozy or beneficial toward him.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 11:25 AM
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17. and yet, given the political context of the present moment, the far bigger surprise
would've been if the Boner hadn't said it.

Which, of course, he did.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 08:13 PM
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8. Full Transcript Of the Interview, Sir, can Be Found Here
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:46 AM
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12. Thank you, ma'am.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 07:22 AM
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16. That interview transcript
doesn't have him calling for rebellion.

He simply says it's happening.

He says "…we want Americans to involve themselves in this discussion, but it ought to be civil…"

There's enough bad stuff going on out there. We don't have to make things up.

He says:

"We want Americans to be involved in these debates. We want them involved in our democracy. We would hope their involvement would be civil, because these are important issues. And when people get too loud, they get too hateful, you can't have much of a conversation."

Do you really see this as him calling for rebellion?

Maybe there's some other quote somewhere where he calls for rebellion (and I'd be very interested in seeing it if that's so), but it's not in the interview to which you linked.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 11:28 AM
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18. I think when he says "we can take our country back" *and* "there's a rebellion going on"
the meaning is rather clear...
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:40 PM
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21. But I don't see anywhere in that interview where it says
that he said "We can take our country back," and even if it did, I would think he would be speaking about the Republican party, not some revolutionary hoodlums.

Your quote of "there's a rebellion going on" is inaccurate, too, although that is his intent, of course. The quote was, "we are in the middle of a modern-day political rebellion in America." And it wasn't a call for rebellion, just an observation that it is happening (an observation with which I am not in total agreement; these folks are a very vocal minority, in my opinion, or Obama would never have been elected). If he's right about it being as widespread a movement as he intimates, then the Democrats will lose both Houses next year. But I think he's wrong. I think there are more people afraid and disgusted with these lunatic "rebels" than they are who fear liberalism or a "government takeover" of health care (or anything else). I also think the Republican party is caught like a deer in the headlights and this junk is all they can think of to throw out there.

Time will tell.






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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:25 PM
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22. in a way, I agree: GOP "leaders" do "watch" their words -- in the sense they speak in code
inciting the true believers, trying to maintain plausible deniability when under scrutiny ("I didn't really say that!")

I believe Boner's comments were directed at the true believers, acknowledging their "rebellion" against that Scary Black Man in the White House, while at the same time, designed to keep him from finding a censure resolution thrown up against his orange face, when he heads back to Congress...
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gopiscrap Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:44 PM
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10. Boner is a piece of shit!!!
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 10:45 PM
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11. a pathetic comment....
....made by a pathetic minority leader in a pathetic Party....

"Rebellion"!!!

....yah right; people across this great land are going to rebel and demand restoration of corruption, inaction and the criminality of repug rule....
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:48 AM
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13. I believe rebellion in a time of war is called Treason
We are in a war aren't we?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 06:51 AM
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15. Calling for rebellion is covered under his oath of office somehow?
I don't see how much longer this can go on before either a violent blowup followed by round up or a few arrests that trigger a violent blow up

This is treason.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 11:46 AM
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19. boehner is (R-OH) not (R-VA) as the article states.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:48 PM
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20. Hmm..
Per casavaria.com

"The House minority leader, one of the most influential politicians in the nation, when asked to call for restraint in language that might incite extremists to violence, answered by calling for open “rebellion” against the government run by Pres. Obama."

Boehner’s refusal to denounce violent rhetoric, and in fact, to reiterate the call for “rebellion”, suggests a moral and intellectual corruption that disqualifies him from any legitimate claim on political leadership in a society governed by the rule of law.



Quotes of more than a single word in length... per MSNBC

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/09/17/2073475.aspx

Boehner did call on Americans to be respectful. "I believe it ought to be civilized," he said. "Americans are speaking up, and I believe they should speak up."

"I believe we are in the middle of a modern day political rebellion…The American people are saying enough is enough."

When asked whether or not he feared the hostile climate could lead to violence as Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said earlier today, Boehner responded, "No I do not." He then mentioned that on Labor Day weekend he had been to a Tea Party and "saw no signs or any indications of any kind of violence."

Git a rope! Find a tree!
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