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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:40 PM
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The Broad Definition of 'Pre-Existing Condition'
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_09/020020.php

THE BROAD DEFINITION OF 'PRE-EXISTING CONDITION'.... In general, when we think about Americans who can't get health care coverage due to a pre-existing condition, we tend to think of someone with a debilitating disease.

From time to time, it's important to remember that a much broader understanding of the phrase is more accurate.

A proposal to make preexisting health conditions irrelevant in the sale of insurance policies could help not just the seriously ill but also people who might consider themselves healthy, documents released Friday by a California-based advocacy group illustrate.

Health insurers have issued guidelines saying they could deny coverage to people suffering from such conditions as acne, hemorrhoids and bunions.

One big insurer refused to issue individual policies to police officers and firefighters, along with people in other hazardous occupations.

Some treated pregnancy or the intention to adopt as a reason for rejection.


As Congress and President Obama work on legislation to overhaul the nation's health-care system, one of their main objectives is to stop insurers from denying coverage on the basis of health status. Proposed legislation would prohibit insurers from denying coverage to individuals with preexisting conditions or charging them higher premiums because of their medical history -- practices known as medical underwriting.


One of the documents released yesterday was published in 2003 by an insurer called PacifiCare, which has since been bought by United Healthcare, which mandated "automatic rejection" for all kinds of interesting reasons, including being an "expectant father." There was also this more general disqualifier: "currently experiencing/experienced within the last 12 months symptoms for which a physician has not been consulted."

A spokesperson for the parent company said the materials are "outdated." Asked to provide current underwriting documents, United Healthcare refused. Imagine that.

Also released were materials from a different insurer that denied coverage or charged higher premiums if someone received treatment for toenail fungus. Blue Cross of California guidelines from 2004 included "varicose veins" as a possible disqualifier for insurance.

Remember, as far as opponents of ambitious health care reform are concerned, protecting these insurers is a key and unyielding priority. Subjecting them to competition is deemed outrageous.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:43 PM
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1. A Pre-Existing Condition Is ANYTHING That The Insurance Cos. Says It Is To Avoid Paying Your Claim
It's called contracutal avoidance, pure and simple.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:47 PM
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2. Being alive - the ultimate pre-existing condition.
That's what I thought of when I saw the subject.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:48 PM
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3. Disgusting, isn't it?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:55 PM
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4. Honesty is a preexisting condition for people who run
the "wealthcare" industry.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:10 PM
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5. My family got Blue Cross in NC in 2002 -
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 05:10 PM by waiting for hope
I got pregnant in 2004 and they called it a pre-existing condition. Wow, I did not know I had been pregnant for over two years prior ... and then to deliver a baby nine months later - shouldn't that be a world record or something?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 05:25 PM
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6. Well, since it's not a word.....
Not to go all Sartre on you, but there is Being (existence) and Nothingness. There is no "pre-existence".
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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 06:08 PM
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7. Life is a pre-existing condition.....
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