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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:15 AM
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Why we (they) "let" Bush invade Iraq
I think the number one reason that the citizens of this country "allowed" Bush to invade was not necessarily out of fear of the bomb, although that played a part, no, the number one reason was bigoted "payback" spawned via an angry ignorance.

The American public, for the most part, seemed, and still seems, to view that region of the world as "all the same". Any military strike was cheered as payback for 9-11 until the reality of just how diverse that region is started to sink in.

Now there is disillusion and there should be shame on the heads of many.
The disgusting warmongering/blood lust that took place in '03 was, and is, a National disgrace.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:18 AM
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1. It's also due to the fact that this administration repeatedly LIED to the American people.
Over and Over and Over again. Mushroom clouds. Fighting in the streets of America. All that shit that turned out to be blatantly false. Lies, Lies and more Lies.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:22 AM
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3. Yes but...
...when it comes to invasion, war, and death it is incumbent upon the citizens to rise up and say, "HELL NO!!!".

You and I had the where-with-all to research and not be fooled and so did most people in this age of the Internet.

No excuses.
And besides...many wanted some blood letting no matter what the facts were.

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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:33 AM
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11. Millions of people did rise up and say no.
Remember the nationwide protests before the invasion? They were mostly ignored by the media, and the president dismissed them as a meaningless "focus group." Bush was determined to have his war, and he refused to listen to anyone who disagreed with him.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:23 AM
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6. I'm more inclined to
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 09:23 AM by gaspee
Believe it was payback. I saw through the lies easily. Every time one of those lying liars came on my TV, I had to turn it off or I ended up screaming LIAR and or wanting to throw something at it.

I think a lot of people were looking for an excuse. And Little King Georgie gave it to them.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:27 AM
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8. Exactly...
...they "wanted" it. They wanted a war.

I didn't so I educated myself.
They did so they remained ignorant.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:21 AM
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2. The war was intensionally sold to the american people by a corporate power
owning our every move from the cradle to the grave. The people, like good little consumers bought it all. Trusted the sellers, the profiteers.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:22 AM
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4. I didn't buy it....
...which means no one had to.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:23 AM
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5. You might be right; but I do not know what the value of focusing on this is.
I guess I can see the value in explaining to the American people that we need to know more about the Middle East. Explaining to them they are bigots though doesn't seem like a winning proposition.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:25 AM
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7. The lesson is....
...pay more attention and stay away from visceral reactionary hatred.
An impossible task for this country I am afraid.

Until there is a deadly war on this soil then the fat and lazy here will continually view war as "over there" or something on TV.
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:51 AM
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17. I think you make a good point.
Look at the percentage of Americans who believed it was a good idea to go into Iraq then versus the number who now support the war. I also think more progress can be made by meaningful dialog than name calling and pontification.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:27 AM
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9. What bomb, BushCo talked about WMDs, yellow cake and mushrooms clouds
....without every mentioning atomic/nuclear bombs specifically. Their entire campaign for war was based on instilling fear in the American people so Bush could exercise his will unchallenged. Most of America was paranoid then and many still are right now.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:28 AM
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10. America wanted revenge for 9/11
We have this John Wayne attitude and we wanted to beat someone up. Bush did a good job of making everyone think that Saddam was behind 9/11 (even if he didn't say that exactly). In fact, there is STILL a huge percentage of the public who thinks that he was behind it.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:36 AM
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12. disagree
I grudgingly agreed that a threat of force was called for based on the lies that were given out. Those lies included paining a terrifying picture of bomb factories, anthrax, laboratories, sarin factories, cranking out shit for Al Queda to throw at us right and left. I heard the inspectors saying "give us more time" and agreed that should occur, but felt the resolution would help apply pressure and potentially lead to progress without the need to attack. I think a lot of people felt the same way then, including many in congress.

As soon as they got the resolution, they ran with it. We "allowed" them to invade not out of some thirst for revenge but out of fear based on boldfaced lies. Let's leave the guilt where it belongs. On them for lying, and on us for not understanding that a lot of our fellow citizens had supported a coup based on whom they would prefer to have a beer with.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:39 AM
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13. I always said:
It was an American Lynch-mob like mentality that infected the populace.

Stupid jerks!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:41 AM
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14. Yep--misdirected anger and wounded national pride are a dangerous combo...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:50 AM
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16. Fear is a great motivator
And most Americans are scared to death.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:24 PM
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20. Anger INTENTIONALLY misdirected by the administration, at that.
It was a premeditated crime.

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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:47 AM
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15. I think a prime example
of of what you say is in the documentary "Why We Fight". I feel it made so very telling points and recommend it highly.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:26 AM
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18. the 2003 worldwide protests
These protests, in toto, were the biggest organized war protests IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE!

THE WHOLE WORLD, LESS MOST of the USA, was calling BULLSHIT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS!

John Wayne syndrome and the fact they made it so anybody questioning dear leader was branded a TRAITOR made for the green light go ahead.

Bush was incredibly lucky to have had 9-11, which created the strongest "lets go get the ragheads that did this" syndrome this country had seen since Pearl Harbor. And the White House lied and scared the populace into believing Saddam engineered 9-11 almost all by himself.

As I've read on DU a while back from a person much more clever that I; "Bush attacking Iraq after 9-11 is like Franklin Roosevelt attacking New Zealand after Pearl Harbor!"

-85% jimmy
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:32 PM
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21. someone had to pay
and afghanistan didn't have any good targets.

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