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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:16 PM
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If "life" is so precious to conservatives...
...shouldn't universal health care be a no-brainer for them? I mean, really. :shrug:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:18 PM
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1. One would think
But then they are only following orders from the talking heads.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:18 PM
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2. Rethugs care about the
pre-born.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:19 PM
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3. Their concern for life begins at conception and ends at birth. Simple. n/t
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:26 PM
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6. Not even that......
they have the worst record for women's health and prenatal care.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 08:23 PM
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17. As long as it doesn't cost them a dime which equals zero prenatal care. n/t
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:19 PM
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4. Shouldn't......
opposing war also be a no-brainer? The hypocrisy of conservatives knows no bounds.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:21 PM
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5. The most important aspect of right wingers is their Goebbelish lies and propaganda
They pretend to be what they are actually the opposite of.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:28 PM
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7. Honestly, only those that still think Pres Bush was a great president don't support
h.c. reform. There are many, many republicans who support h.c. reform. You have astro-turfing industry that is supposed to look like a grass root movement (really just money from ins. industries) and a few loonies who are racists, white, maybe evangelicals, 20%rs who would still support English occupation and the Queen herself if we were at the beginning times of this country. Anyway, the numbers are really skewed. People favor a public option.. many think it will be like medicare for younger people.. something they can get if their workplace doesn't offer it. AND there are a ton of everyday pracitices within the h.c. industry that are just bad. Hospitals should post their efficiency scores. They should post how much disease is prevented.. We hear the stories, in for tonsil removal, stayed longer because of some infection from the hospital. When choosing a Doc or hospital or clinic, one should have the stats on how good the hospital or clinic or office actually is.. Shoot, we choose plumbers, hotels, airlines, eating establishments based on web sites with scores of proficiency dotted with personal experience stories to make our decision as to how we are going to spend our money.. it keeps businesses honest.. However, in the med. ind. there is no place to pull up a menu on a drug and find the cheapest pharmacy to buy your script at. There is no site that rates the doc offices, clinics, or hospitals within your area. Choosing a good doc that is available and within your network is often very difficult, especially if you've moved into a new area. I don't know if this is all in the bill.. but a database advertising prices and reviews and standards with rating charts would be one of the best ways to keep those administering healthcare services honest.
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jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:28 PM
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8. Makes one wonder when as a group they are
so staunch in their pro-life stance. Where do they stand on the Death Penalty? War? National Health Care? Equal rights and Education?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:34 PM
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9. The only lives they care about are their own and zygotes
Republican. Hypocrite.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:35 PM
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10. Excellent point.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:37 PM
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11. their business with the sanctity of marriage and life, ect.
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 05:39 PM by ngant17
this is an obvious facade which only serves their immediate political purposes. Behind the scenes, they lie, cheat, commit adultry and steal and they will do it for as long as the public's attention is diverted. Gov. Sanford of SC is a classic recent case.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:37 PM
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12. It has nothing- ZERO- to do with "life". It's about stopping people from fucking.
Pure and simple.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:48 PM
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14. From the conservative voter's perspective, that is correct.
From the perspective of the conservative politician, it is about conning stupid people into voting against their economic interests.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:42 PM
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13. Did you forget that ...
when they went into Iraq they didn't give a damn the night of the bombing you should have heard them hooping and hollaring as they bombed innocent people. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US!or no one else.
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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 08:22 PM
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16. How about the way they handled Katrina and left New Orleans to drown?
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 05:50 PM
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15. Love the fetus, forget the child, hate the woman.
They couldn't care less what happens to a human after birth, as long as there are enough of us to be used as "cannon fodder" when needed.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 08:25 PM
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18. As long as it doesn't separate them from their money...
That's all they care about.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 09:38 PM
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19. Life is precious to the conservatives...
but, only certain lives are precious to them, esp. the lives of those that look most like them.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 09:40 PM
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20. It it
However, life is not precious, therefore UHC isn't on the priority list.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 10:02 PM
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21. It's just more RW doublethink
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 10:11 PM
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22. They don't give a shit about life. It's about controlling the sexuality of women. That's always been
the underlying MO of the so-called "pro-lifers". These are the same people who are more likely to stand up and protect the insurance industry. They are the same ones most likely to assert hat health care is NOT a right but a privilege.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:46 AM
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24. True, but they paint themselves into the corner, so to speak...
...with the unqualified label of "pro-life." And remember that they hate nuanced language, as well. So, why should we help them out of this jam by explaining what they really mean? Let's make them tell the world how they can be pro-life and anti-universal health care. When lies are compounded by further lies, eventually, the entire false premise implodes.
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NoUsername Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 10:49 PM
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23. That and ending the wars.
Those that claim to be "pro-life" (which is the vast majority of conservatives) yet have absolutely no problem with the #1 killing machine known as the MIC/DOD are nothing more than the worst of the worst of the hypocrites. Everyone that claims to be "pro-life" should be out protesting the wars and demanding equal, affordable access to health care for everyone. If they're not doing that, they have absolutely NO business protesting health care reform and/or blocking access to abortion clinics. Until I see the same people mounting a HUGE protest against the MIC/DOD, they don't have a leg to stand on as far as I'm concerned.
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