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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:52 PM
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Tenet bombshell in new book according to Tweety show today.
Anyone know what it is?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:55 PM
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1. It may be
the context he puts the infamous "slam dunk" statement into. I believe that is one of the things that some folks in the administration are unhappy about.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:59 PM
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5. I never bought that 'slam dunk' attribution the first moment I heard it. It sounded far too
convenient and in the context they used it seemed to have the sole purpose of protecting Bush from having to be responsible for a decision he and Cheney made on Sept.12, 2001.
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tetedur Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 06:44 PM
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18. In the "One Percent Doctrine" Suskind said Tenet didn't
remember saying "slam dunk."

From: A Misdirected War on Terror?

"The book challenges the claim, made in Bob Woodward's book Plan of Attack, that CIA chief George Tenet told Bush in late 2002 that the case that Saddam had WMD was a "slam-dunk." That phrase has hung like a noose around Tenet ever since and been widely derided as perhaps the most notorious, and erroneous, claim to justify the invasion of Iraq. Tenet, Suskind says, was stunned to read what he had purportedly told the President when he saw an excerpt from the book in the Washington Post in April 2004. While the President wasn't quoted as a source for that remark, he had been interviewed by Woodward for the book. Tenet "wondered how the President could recall so clearly something Tenet himself didn't remember saying," Suskind writes, and felt the White House was setting him up as a "fall guy" for the bad intelligence that many in the CIA believed came from the Pentagon and members of Vice President Cheney's staff eager to overthrow Saddam.

Such score-settling has a long and honorable history in the annals of Washington reportage. But Suskind won't say if Tenet, or his allies, played a role as Suskind's key sources trying to set the "slam-dunk" record straight. "I can't get into the sourcing," he tells Time."

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1206001,00.html


So the slam dunk statement shouldn't be the big surprise. But then again, though Suskind dropped the bomb on that one no one took notice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 08:25 AM
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20. That's the problem - the media doesn't repeat or focus on REAL bombs and info.
Like with the swifts. They gave the swifts the same treatment as 'slam dunk' while obscuring all counters to those lies.
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think4yourself Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:55 PM
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2. That he doesn't deserve the Medal of Freedom or whatever that was
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:55 PM
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3. Unless Cheney is getting a blowjob or they have pix of lil boots in a dress
nothing is going to have impact on the publics view of impeachment of these bastards.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:57 PM
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4. I'd say they'd probably cheer Cheney getting a bj.
It'd have to be Cheney giving a BJ to result in impeachment. :hi:
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:04 PM
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8. lil boots in a dress...
:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:03 PM
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12. The public's view? Or the view of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies?
Last I heard, 51% of the American people want an impeachment investigation. 75% oppose the Iraq war and want it ended. And 84%(!) oppose any US participation in a widened Mideast war. And way back in Feb. '03, before the invasion, 56% opposed the Iraq War--even before Colin Powell's 100% pack of lies to the UN was fully exposed.

I think we often mix up the impression we get from the corporate news monopolies of what the American people think and what they want with what the American people REALLY think and what they REALLY want. The war profiteering corporate news monopolies lavish a lot of thought and effort into forming our impressions of what most Americans think. Witness that 56% who opposed the war from the beginning. You couldn't have known, from corporate news/opinion, that the MAJORITY of Americans opposed it. 56% would be a landslide in a presidential election--and, if the truth were known, it was. But the bad guys want us peace-minded and progressive people to feel isolated and alone--to feel like we are the minority. They are very successful at it. We need to fight this every day--these games they play to demoralize and disenfranchise the majority. So, when I see yet another post dissing the American people, I always wonder where it's coming from and I try to challenge it. Where do you get the impression that the American people don't want Bush and Cheney impeached. 51% is a very big number to be for impeachment--an extraordinary measure that disrupts the government. And that was some months ago. I expect it's even higher now.

It's odd that some of the opinion stats come from war profiteering corporate news monopoly organizations, or are reported by them--but they are backpaged. You have to dig for them. It's been clear all along--even to them--what the real views of the American are. But their news/opinion does not even come close to reflecting mainstream American opinion. It is mostly 24/7 fascist propaganda. I guess they need to know what people actually think in order to better "sell" the war and their other corporate tripe. You wonder why they do polling at all. But they do. And it almost always contradicts the tenor of the "news" and its Bush/corporate "talking points." Hate radio is another example. Most Americans aren't hateful. Most are tolerant and progressive. Yet when we turn on the radio, it is almost non-stop fascist trash, from one end of the dial to the other. We aren't given the choice of thoughtful radio, liberal radio, radio talk that addresses most people's real concerns. So we get the impression that there a lot of brownshirts out there--it's scary. But I think there are really only about ten of them--and they keep calling all the shows to make it seem like many. (I exaggerate--there are probably more than that--but you get my point.)

We have to stop letting the corporate news monopolies form our impression of the American people. And we have to stop calling them "the mainstream media" (MSM). They are not the mainstream--they are not even close. They are way, way off the charts toward the rightwing and fascism.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 06:31 PM
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17. Well if so many want to impeach then were are they? Besides us @
DU do you hear much impeachment talk?

I don't.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 06:49 AM
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19. That's my point, Xultar. Where would you "hear" it from? Rush Limbaugh?
Sean Hannity? The Wall Street Journal? CNN? The bad guys have almost total control of what you "hear." It was the same back in Feb. 03. FIFTY-SIX PERCENT of the American people opposed the Iraq War. Would you have known that from the non-stop, 24/7 war propaganda that was being shoved down our throats to make us--the majority!--feel like the minority?

We need to think hard about what we think we are "hearing" of American public opinion, and what is true. We, and all other progressive Americans--the majority--are constantly being brainwashed and propagandized by the views of a tiny minority--basically 5 rightwing billionaire CEOS who control virtually all news and opinion in the country. They have NOT succeeded in convincing anyone of their warmongering and fascist views, but they HAVE succeeded in demoralizing the majority and convincing us that we are isolated and alone in our desire for peace and good government. This is their only propaganda triumph, and I see evidence of it everywhere.

So, where are all these progressive Americans--who keep showing up in poll after poll, expressing their disapproval of Bush and his heinous war, and have been FROM THE BEGINNING? They are all in their hovels, thinking they must be the minority!

And why, after these wonderful people--our fellow and sister Americans--outvoted the Bushite-corporate controlled voting machines in '06, to try to get themselves a progressive Congress--do their Congress critters still not listen to them? Because their Congress critters know that the views of the American people have been deliberately reduced to only a tiny factor in the power game, and that pleasing big money and pleasing the war profiteering corporate news monopolies are far more important than listening to the people, whom they can still shine on with rhetoric against the war, while voting to continue funding it. Impeach Bush? Not on your life. He's the money train.

But as for what the people really want--and have always wanted--peace, prosperity, justice--their views can be safely ignored, under cover of the corporate propaganda machine, which creates a grossly false picture of the American people that EVEN leftists (majorityists) seem to have fallen for.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:01 PM
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6. From U.S. News & World Report
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/070401/9whisplead_print.htm

"We hear vaguely that in At the Center of the Storm: My Years at the CIA, out April 30, Tenet takes responsibility for intelligence shortcomings but also isn't shy about naming officials in the Bush and Clinton administrations who share in the blame."

I'm cynical, so I suspect it'll be clinton fault.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:16 PM
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15. If that's Tenet's "bombshell"--ho hum! He's been covering for these criminals
with that kind of blather for a long time, and if he covers up for them some more, his book sales are going to go into remainder before they're off the presses.

I suspect he has some wounds to heal with the CIA, and that "taking responsibility for intelligence shortcomings" is not going to cut it. That was the dispute--these ratfucks BLAMING the CIA, when the CIA had been straight with them on both matters, 9/11 and Iraq. And the other wound is, of course, their outing of Plame and Brewster Jennings--an act of treason.

If Tenet doesn't address at least these two things with more honesty than he has in the past, what is the use of him writing a book?

Also, what difference does it make if the CIA was right that "bin Laden is determined to strike in the U.S." or had gotten it wrong, and had not presented this clear warning, if NORAD is going to be ordered to stand down anyway? It's time somebody busted that one open.

One more thing: beware the source of your quote. US News is among the very worst of the war profiteering rags.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:02 PM
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7. Maybe more information on his July '01 meeting with Condi?
Or more details about his briefings to the Decider during the summer of '01?

Whatever, I hope it's good enough to make everyone rethink this administration's pre-knowledge of 9/11.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:29 PM
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9. Historical sidebar: once upon a time the ME peace roadmap was called "The Tenet Plan"
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:35 PM
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10. A couple of things I remember..about Rice's 9/11 testimony. According to Tenet she lied.
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 04:35 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
She said who could imagine that a plane could be used as a weapon. Tenet said he gave her a whole slide show, which included planes as weapons.
Another "bombshell" The CIA got the intelligence re Iraq Right..Cheney skewed it.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:00 PM
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11. Unfortunately, no matter what the
aha! moment is.....no matter what Tenet wrote that really nails The Bushits, the MSM will spin it to mean Tenet has an axe to grind!
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:12 PM
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13. Didn't his abrupt resignation coincide with Chimp hiring a person lawyer?
Remember, he went to the WH in the evening to render a surprising (to the world at large) resignation. Maybe what we'll be treated to is why of that.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:13 PM
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14. Says he never said, "slam dunk." I always said that he never said that
and that Woodward carelessly put into quotes something some careless words spouted from shrubs stupid lips. Unless he got shrub to swear on a stack of Bibles that those were Tenet's exact words, he should have never issued them as quotes.
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