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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:44 AM
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Human rights activist finds noose on porch
The education director of a Human Rights Education Institute in Idaho said someone left a noose on the porch of her home in an apparent threat against the black family.

Rachel Dolezal said she found the noose Sunday morning just outside her front door in Spokane, Wash.

"I spent a lot of time in Mississippi, so when I saw that rope, I knew what it was," Dolezal told the Coeur d'Alene Press in a story published Wednesday. "You have to learn and practice how to tie a noose. It's a very intentional thing."
http://www.idahostatesman.com/IDAHONEWS/story/910349.html
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:46 AM
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1. All of the hate speech bears further fruit.
And it may have gone on to its natural outcome in Kentucky.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:59 AM
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7. Every one of these situations has turned out with the "victim" being the culprit. It's old.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:05 PM
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9. Wait a minute, are you saying you think Rachel Dolezal tied the noose herself to get attention?
Are you serious?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:12 PM
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12. People do stupid shit thinking they are helping.
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 12:12 PM by imdjh
The article is suspicious from here. The paradox is that if I am right then this woman and her child are not in danger and that's a good thing, and if I am wrong then she is vindicated and in danger.

Excuse me, I have to go duck a witch at 1:15pm.


PS- to the woman in the article: making a noose is not a specialized skill, we were doing it in third grade (and getting in trouble for it)
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:40 PM
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20. What wonderful childhood memories you have!
Noose-making 101! What else did you learn in third grade? How to make pipe bombs and the best kinds of inflammable materials to use at cross burnings?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:01 PM
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:39 PM
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24. As a former third grader as well as a former girl scout (K-8 grades),
I will attest to never having learned how to tie knots. Ever. I saw it was an elective for a badge in girl scouts, but I don't remember nooses being among the encouraged knotting techniques. If all third graders are learning how to tie nooses, why were you getting in trouble for it?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:10 PM
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33. Maybe it's a boy thing.
We learned all kinds of knots, but the hangman's knot was a favorite because it has a mechanical quality to it, ie you make the loop bigger or smaller and the rope moves through the wraps. Besides, by third grade you're into Dark Shadows and vampires and stuff.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:33 AM
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34. Absolutely, racism is dead!
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 02:33 AM by Chulanowa
Just ask any white person!
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:16 AM
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38. Like a pot smoker said the other day
"I've been smoking pot for 40 years dayly, never quit, I'll tell you pot is not addictive"
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:06 PM
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11. WTF?!
What are you suggesting? That the human rights worker planted a noose on her own front porch for publicity? Please provide any proof that people on the left do anything like this, any news reports you've read that cross burnings have been self-inflicted, that the bombs that blew up churches in the South were planted by parishioners, etc. This isn't that bimbo who carved a backwards B on her face, this is a noose on a black family's porch. So prove the majority of hate crimes are perpetrated by the "victim" or keep your ill-informed opinions to yourself.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:15 PM
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14. What is the attention span around here? Five minutes?
We just had a case where a person that too many folks were al too willing to believe accused four or five guys of rape so her boyfriend would't dump her. And you think that someone wouldn't stage a high profile thing like this?

Are you just way too generous of spirit?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:33 PM
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:10 PM
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22. Cute. Try it on someone who will fall for it.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:42 PM
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26. Cute. I can see "falling for" the truth is to be mocked.
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 01:43 PM by intheflow
Requesting you to provide facts, links, or anything but empty rhetoric is obviously delusional on my part. :eyes:
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:54 PM
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30. If you have "worked in human rights" whatever that's supposed to mean
then you ought to be aware of at least three fake hate crimes. If you aren't, then you appear to be full of shit. Since you only need one for your challenge, then google it.

But I'm not going to give you a platform for some delusional defense of long settled cases of faked hate crimes only to have you turn it around in some childish way to an accusation against me for even being aware of them.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:03 PM
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31. Because you can't. n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:05 PM
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32. Oh gee, I've been double dared. I guess I'll do it now. nt
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 02:05 PM by imdjh
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:11 AM
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37. What is your attention span
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 10:11 AM by kenfrequed
The original post brought up Kentucky- referring to the census worker that appears to have been lynched there.

Then someone replied roughly that'every one of these cases has had the "victim" being the cause'

The first poster gave his perfunctory WTF and 'where is your evidence that these were faked'.

Whereupon you challenged his attention span and threw out a red herring regarding a supposed sexual assault that has nothing at all to do with this matter.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:12 PM
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13. Did you forget the sarcasm tag or are you serious?
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 12:13 PM by Mrs. Overall
I find that I always do a double-take when I come across your posts because what you often say is in stark contrast to both your username and your avatar.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:22 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:20 PM
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:23 PM
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18. Every one, eh? Really? Links?
No links? So, you know this how, exactly?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:42 PM
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27. link? n/t
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:55 AM
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35. Oh so
You have already decided that the Census worker in Kentucky hung himself? Or are you being sarchastic.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:01 PM
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8. You made me think of that Bill Holiday classic
Strange fruit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:50 AM
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2. Waiting for those that feel as if those inciting this kind of intentional acts should
be allowed to continue unedited...and by those I mean those in high places who should no better and yet continue without any kind of censor from their peers...

I am no beginning to see huge brightly colored Impeach obama signs in texas displayed on the front of people's property along with the usual god bless america signs...I assume god does not like obama which is what I believe these people are attempting to state...wonder if they have learned such from their so called religious leaders...
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:51 AM
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3. Hanging nooses is free speech.
No different than burning the flag. :sarcasm:

At any rate, has nothing to do with racism.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:53 AM
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4. i was thinking the same thing
it's just "free speech" :eyes:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:29 PM
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23. and, third graders tie nooses all the time...
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 01:32 PM by nashville_brook
therefore, she's likely making this up to make the teabaggers look bad.

because, black women do that all the time, you know.













and yes...:sarcasm:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:55 AM
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5. Better not jump to conclusions. This might just be a random criminal act with NO
political undertones.

At least, many here would say to exercise that caution.

I say the time is long past to call out the reich on every one of these terrorist acts.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:55 AM
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6. she's a brave woman
:toast: to her for not giving in to racist bullying. however, i think it's a good idea that she moved to Spokane.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:06 PM
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10. NOW LET'S NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS!!!!
Oy.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:16 PM
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15. Yeah, I mean it could have just been a stray rope
Or some kind of loose twine...

:sarcasm:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:43 PM
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28. Exactly!
It could have been a present left by a neighborhood cat. Or perhaps it blew there from parts unknown.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:41 PM
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25. This is a growing, and dangerous, trend
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:43 PM
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29. It alright people. This has nothing to do with race, and there's nothing whatsoever wrong with Idaho
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:57 AM
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36. there were nooses and the N word scrawled as graffiti in my small town last year
right by the black churches here. The pastors got together and decried it and asked everyone to counter it with love. The townspeople did just that. There havent been any since.
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