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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:14 PM
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NY POST: Goldman Sachs got $10 bil bailout, gives $16 bil in bonuses--why aren't they in prison?
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 12:36 PM by yurbud
This should be something conservatives and progressives can agree on: our tax dollars should not be given as bonuses to the scammers who crashed our economy. Congress should be holding hearings on this and the FBI should be raiding Goldman Sachs and the other companies that clamored for the bailout and arresting all of their top execs.

The Goldman CEO did suggest a change in compensation I agree with and have suggested before: he wants execs to hold stock in the company at least until they retire. However, this could just be window dressing, and it shouldn't be up to the companies themselves to figure out how to reform--we should be telling them, preferably as we frog march their CEO and other top execs out of the office to make sure the rest get the message.

If you agree, don't just vote this up, but shoot a note to your congressman and senators or call. You can find both at: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/index.html

Let's see if we can wipe the shit-eating grin off that CEO's face.

'Damage' control
Goldman chief drowning in record $16B bonus pool



Goldman Sachs’ CEO Lloyd Blankfein

By MARK DeCAMBRE

Last Updated: 10:49 AM, September 24, 2009

Posted: 1:13 AM, September 24, 2009

Goldman's bonus pool is expected to swell to an estimated $16 billion after what's expected to be another stellar quarter, and Blankfein is struggling to figure out how to pay his employees in a way that keeps them happy while avoiding another round of populist and political outrage like the bank experienced over the summer.


In an attempt to beat back the tide of bad press, Blankfein has publicly advocated that the industry should make a number of changes to compensation on Wall Street, including adding clawbacks and moving away from making salary guarantees to new hires. He's also called for employees to hold more stock until they retire.

A Rolling Stone article referred to the firm as "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity." Another article in New York magazine suggested that Goldman might have benefited from Uncle Sam's rescue of giant insurer American International Group.

Goldman accepted $10 billion in government rescue funds to help it stay afloat last year as the credit crisis roiled the entire market. The bank, however, bounced back sooner than its rivals, leading some observers to think the bank leveraged its government subsidies to churn out bigger profits.

mark.decambre@nypost.com

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/damage_control_wMcWJrGnm5enlZYGHnwULI">FULL TEXT


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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:20 PM
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1. Is this rich fuck even gonna send us a Thank You card?
:puke:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:49 PM
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9. that's what I tell my students about oil companies and the Iraq War:
Did anybody pull into a gas station and get a free tank as a thank you for the Iraq War?

Did they lower their prices to thank us?

How exactly did canceling all Saddam's oil deals and putting a gun to the Iraqis' heads while our oil companies negotiate with them help average Americans?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:20 PM
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2. K&R
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:25 PM
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3. Because they own us and "our" government. K&R.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:37 PM
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5. we should at least remind Congress that we know that--I said that when I called both senators
and my congressman--if these guys aren't investigated and prosecuted, it looks like the rest of us are their bitch.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:31 PM
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4. This is the New Normal. We should get used to seeing this sort of thing over and over.
well, I was going to say "until the people decide to do something about it" but i'm afraid it's too late for that.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:51 PM
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11. +1
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:39 PM
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6. Where did the other $6 billion come from?
Weren't they supposed to be in some sort of, you know, financial trouble?
:shrug:
(Leave it to me to overstate the obvious!)
:argh:





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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:48 PM
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8. Where did the whole $16 billion come from? They paid back the $10 in TARP money and
still come up with $16 billion to pay bonuses. If we just reinstated the progressive taxation we had a few decades ago, I wouldn't care as much how much the bonuses were since the government would get 90% anyway.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:50 PM
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10. I agree with that.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:05 PM
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12. Goldman was not in financial trouble. Treasury "parked" $10 bil with them for Citibank's sake
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 01:06 PM by HamdenRice
Goldman never needed a bailout. It was forced to take the money so that investors would not know which banks were in trouble and how bad. So Treasury parked $10 billion with Goldman for a few months and Goldman paid it back.

The only reason Goldman was "forced" to take bailout money was that Paulson did not want the markets to know which banks were in trouble. By forcing them all to take money, he obscured which banks needed the money.

The $16 billion comes from being virtually the only investment bank left standing.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 01:57 PM
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13. oy
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:46 PM
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7. My letter to Obama:
I read in the New York Post today that Goldman Sachs is giving out $16 billion in bonuses after receiving $10 billion in bailout money, and also used bailout money to buy out competitors rather than getting credit flowing again.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/damage_control_wMcWJrGnm5enlZYGHnwULI

You must direct the Justice Department to investigate not just all the Wall Street firms who demanded and got bailout money, but Goldman Sachs in particular.

Otherwise, your Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary and other Goldman Sachs financial advisers will make your administration look as openly corrupt as the Bush administration.

I believe you have done and will continue to do good things for our country, but your relationship with Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms, who have done so much to harm average Americans and people in other countries with their scams and neoliberal economics, are a cancer on your presidency.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:24 PM
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14. Oil up the Guillotine!!!! Bastards, the lot of them nt
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:53 PM
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15. Because they run the treasury now...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:53 PM
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16. The best way to rob a bank is to own one
Who said that?
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