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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:06 AM Original message |
Dog-whistling - Do you understand the term? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yep. K&R n/t |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. K&R |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks you. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
5. I recognized it immediately. I'm a black woman therefore "overly sensitive" |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Amen to calling it out! |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. You are so correct and none of it should be tolerated or considered acceptable. nt. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I'm going to start a list. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Pretty much ANYTHING those dogs equate with "socialism" is a dog whistle |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Tim Wise: Red-Baiting and Racism |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Love Tim Wise. He's required reading. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. i don't think i did |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. One group of American code words is claimed to appeal to racism of the intended audience |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. but dubya didn't even try to overturn roe v wade because |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Doesn't matter. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. The GOP powerbrokers are playing the fundies for fools. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I've heard the same said about Dems and American progressives**nm |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. i don't see a parallell at all. explain, please? what |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Hugh is |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. i don't understand what you are saying. who's hugh and what does he have to do with this? eom |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. As I understand it, |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. ok, i understand that sentence now. perhaps quotations |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Not here. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. On "states rights" |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. The repukes very adeptly ignored "states rights" when they fought the Florida Supreme Court |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
91. Also the term "hard working Americans" |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. You should include specific examples if you're going to post a thread like this. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Ok. 'Obama is not a citizen' 'Obama hates white culture' |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. like calling Obama an "elitist" is really calling him "uppity" |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I should have. Here are some: |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. The swastika: |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. It is an ancient Hindu/Buddhist symbol. |
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1955doubledie (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. They've been using "dog whistle" code words for a while now, too. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. Here's another one. "Canadians" = black people. I'm not kidding. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. I've heard that one used, too**nm |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
69. Here's another that surfaced post-Katrina... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Really? You think so? |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Here's another one. Saxby Chambliss said Obama "better show humility" |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
87. the most long enduring dog whistle "law and order" |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. ding ding ding, we have a winner nt |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. I know what a wolf-whistle is |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. MEH! nt |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. Nicely stated, Are_grits_groceries |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. You mean like:Obama "snuck " this or that into a bill?? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. That one could be. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. And "sneeky". |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R! n/t |
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RFKHumphreyObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. K&R. A perfect description |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. Rec x 1,000 |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Slavery = Abortion |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Excellent thread. K&R n/t |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. Excellent OP! |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's the truth. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. Ah maybe we are waking up to the reasons |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. Elite is dog-whistling for uppity too I think. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. "Elite" is dog-whistle for "unmanly." n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't mind elite, since it is mostly true. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I object to the use of "elite." I looked around one day and realized I was a so-called elite... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Depends on what you do with that knowledge. If you work hard and get a law degree |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. So what does "Elite" mean when Obama uses it? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Anybody can dog-whistle. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. The beauty of dog whistling is that words with common meanings are used |
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voc (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
76. You nailed it. nt |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. To Beck-heads, elite means intellectually superior. To many of t working class it means financially |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Good explanation, thanks for posting. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
36. ACORN is dogwhistling for n*****. nt |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. And specifically, "getting n*****s to register to vote" |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
73. You are absolutley right. ACORN's success in registering minorities that tend to vote Democratic |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. They do the same thing with requiring Voter ID in heavily Hispanic SW states |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
38. KnR. As a kid I remember "law and order" and "states' rights" were anti-Negro and anti-Civil Rights |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. omigod, I said if |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I'm not mocking anybody who doesn't hear it. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
79. That's right, it's all pretend |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Anyone know what "crop dusting" means? nt |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
46. "Cracking the Code" by Thom Hartmann. nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. An example would be Hank Williams Jr's "Pretty people like you and me" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
52. Yep, sadly many don't |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
57. This is great, Are_grits_groceries |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
59. I had forgotten about it,actually. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Chase their tail in circles. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
63. Are there any Dog-Whistles for liberals? |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. I'd never heard the term before, but |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
66. I could write a few books about the code words Republicans use to their evangelical voters. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
70. Thank you for this info. I did not realize this "coded" type of speech was called dog-whistling. |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
71. Rec for reality based posts |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
74. This is under the table racism exposed by Carter, yes? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Clinton may have really believed it |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
75. I know exactly what you mean |
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voc (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
77. Yes, |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
78. Dog whistles and propaganda stand out like road flares to me |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Oooh that reminds me of another one |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. I have a deep interest in language |
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anniebelle (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
80. Having lived in the Deep South most of my life, I know the dog whistle. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
81. so when Limbaugh says he possesses "talent on loan from God," . . . |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
82. The Wing-Nut Code |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
83. One of the difficulties in hearing dog-whistling |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
88. I see the power of propaganda use more in terms of a bell than a whistle. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
93. Gays get them ALL THE TIME |
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