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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:40 AM Original message |
Santa Monica Votes to Draft Ordinance On City-Wide Cat De-Claw Ban |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Gonna end up with a crapload more sofas, chairs, curtains, and other stuff in the landfills. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I suspect that the upholstered furniture lobby is behind this. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Have you ever seen what one cat can do to a naugahide recliner? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Hey, buster, that's Naugahyde®! |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Probably. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. No. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Those are cute! If my cat had front claws I'd get them for him. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. I love them clawed or declawed. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. That's what I use for my two rescue cats. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. If I'd found them sooner, |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Can Santa Monica ban abortion? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. I suspect the 'inhumane procedures' bit only applies to things that aren't |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. It's really simple |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. good! |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I agree but I don't know that a city ordinance is necessary. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. seems to me that if you don't like what cats do |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
9. clawed sofa = lazy or ignorant owner |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
10. Good! |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. True confession: I have NEVER been able to train any of my cats to stop clawing the furniture. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. LOL! |
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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. My ex and I had four cats |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. POLITICALLY CORRECT INSANITY |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. De-clawing is barbaric torture of animals. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It does make it hard for them to play the violin. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. I have four cats who live mostly indoors, and they don't shred things. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Roll of the dice I think. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Our neighbor has anywhere from 15-25 feral cats on his property. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Skidmore |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Guy is a dumb as a log. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I have two cats indoors ONLY and they have never shredded my furniture. n/t |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Please take a moment and learn about declawing |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Maybe we'll see even more of them in shelters being put down now. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. That cannot be a bad thing |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. I've had declawed cats and clawed cats. No difference in the happiness |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
15. Like the decision to have an abortion, the decision whether or not |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. interesting |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. A properly performed declaw in a young cat is not horribly cruel. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. risks |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Sadly, too many veterinarians risk animal's lives needlessly by using |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Unless it is the cat choosing, this isn't a choice issue. nt |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Fetuses don't choose whether or not mom has an abortion. You argument is silly. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Fetuses don't have the brain development to choose. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Does a baby have the brain development to choose? When do they have that development? (nt) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The human brain continues to delvelop into adulthood. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. So ONLY when they are born, or are their brains able to feel pain sometime before that? (nt) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Feel pain? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Are you interested in brain development? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. In a lot of ways I am |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. My personal pov |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. yelling |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. LOL! Come on. I just yelled at my dog to shut the hell up--he does what |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. it's against the law in some other countries. |
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