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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:15 AM
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Colo. Charter School head makes highest pay in state
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13423855

Trouble regarding the network has been brewing for months. In May, at the same time the network was trying to shutter one of its schools due to financial problems, it was first disclosed that Hernandez was earning $261,732 a year, making him the highest paid public-school superintendent in the state. His wife made $134,826, and Guerrero, the CFO, earned $247,797.


Yeah, I want me some of THAT!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:21 AM
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1. WOW! How many kids is he supervising for a quarter of a million a year?
That's just mind blowing.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:25 AM
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2. Not more than a few thousand, and most of those are online.
GOAL Academy and Cesar Chavez Academy are two arms of the same entity - one with regular schools and the other online.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:26 AM
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3. How are his schools performing?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 06:12 PM
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4. Well, they're in utter chaos right now.
So not very well.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:15 PM
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5. the part about "testing abuse" in the article suggested as much nt
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:31 PM
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11. delete
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 07:31 PM by Liberal_in_LA
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:18 PM
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6. I think it should be illegal to give taxpayer dollars to these schools nt
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:26 PM
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7. to these schools if they are failing i agree with you, but i think that parents should be able to
opt out their kids from public school and be able to get funds released to them for their private schooling. For a lot of parents the public schools are not doing what the parents wish educationally for the kids.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:29 PM
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8. Thanks, I didn't know how that worked. So...they can only get out
what the system would allocate for their one child?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:31 PM
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10. Our tax dollars should not be paying for private schools.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:34 PM
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15. yeah thats how it seems, i think its a good idea to have the funds mobile
and able to follow the child, so if a child is gifted in say music and wants to attend a private music school the dollars can be used to offset the costs..
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:37 PM
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17. We so disagree. You are willing to undermine public education.
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 07:37 PM by madfloridian
Why not keep the funds for public schools.

I never cease to be amazed how the propaganda has worked to destroy our public education system.

People believe we should pay for their kids to attend private schools. When the hell did that happen.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:17 PM
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25. No way.
I'm a gay man. Why on earth would I want to send MY tax dollars to a parochial school that teaches it's students that I'm "of the devil?"

Bullshit on that.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:22 PM
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26. And we could get our kids away from those
pesky... how do you say... you know the kids from the other side of the city.

Let's do every thing we can to make white flight even easier.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:30 PM
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9. You want my tax dollars to pay for your kids' private schools? No, thanks.
Let's see, as they take more and more money from public schools for vouchers and charter schools...they demand more and more of the public schools and less and less of the others.

You have a right to put your kids in any private school, but why should this retired teacher's tax dollars pay for it?????

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:32 PM
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13. okay so you want a parent to send their kid to a failing school even if there is a better option
remember the parent pays taxes as well, i would rather my taxes go to get that kid the best education available for that kid. Mayby thats the problem you see the system as more important whereas i see the kid getting the best education they can get as important.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:35 PM
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16. I don't want to pay for private schools or charter schools. I want public education.
We could have it if they were not defunding it. Charter and private schools can advertise with public money, public schools can not.

It angers me greatly for people to think I should be responsible for paying for a private school religious or not for their child.

Why should you expect that?

I gladly give my tax dollars for public schools.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:38 PM
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18. i would gladly give my tax dollars for the best education for the kids
i dont care if its in public schools or private, religious or music etc etc, i think the idea that one shoe fits all does an injustice to the kids. What about the hypothetical kid who excells at music but has to attend a public school with no expertise in music, wouldnt it be better to let that kid attend a private school that excels in music if that is their wish.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:41 PM
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19. No, pay for the public schools to have those advantages.
Your mindset is so different I am backing off.

Bye for now.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:45 PM
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21. so you think that every public school will be able to serve every child in every expertise
its not going to happen no matter how much money goes into the system. kids are all different from each other, no two are alike and the education system needs to respond to those differences. If you believe that education is the most important thing we can give to the kids in the country then you have to be prepared to allow parents and kids to decide. I dont get how you can put the system before the needs of the kids, that seems counter productive..
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:15 PM
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23. We give kids choice, and we do it publicly.
Here's our site: www.mapleton.us

We offer the choice of International Baccalaureate, several Expeditionary Learning schools, a Back to Basics, several Coalition of Essential Schools' models, an Arts school, Montessori preK-6th, a Big Picture school, and several others. We provide transportation to any kid to the school of his/her choice.

No charters needed.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:24 PM
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27. No we want the school fixed
not send kids to one fly by night experimental school after another in some vain hope that some crack pot "genius" is going to make a magical private school that will fix all the problems at half the cost.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:31 PM
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12. Wow - more than the CU football coach?
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 07:33 PM by BlooInBloo
Ah - nope - CU football coach is somewhere in the range of $1 million.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:16 PM
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24. He's not K-12, so he can make whatever he wants. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:32 PM
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14. To compare, high school principals in our area average 70 or 80 thousand dollars.
Elementary principals are less than that.

They are giving my money to corporations to run schools that are not regulated.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:44 PM
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20. Notice if you will the expectation....notice the guilt trips used now.
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 07:46 PM by madfloridian
that people should have their kids sent to private school on public money.

When did this happen?

When did my tax money start being considered okay to give to private and charter schools not answerable to me?

The GOP since Reagan has done a super duper job on destroying public schools. I congratulate them for their propaganda machine.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:58 PM
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28. Exactly. I went to public schools from '60 to '72
I was taught real math, geography, science and social studies buy some great teachers. I was prepared to go to college by public education.

Of course this is before Reagan, et al started demonizing the NEA and public schools and doing their best to "privatize" them. Always remember that privatization is a key word meaning they want to make money off of something the government can to better.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:03 PM
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22. Arne gave AZ $54 million for more charter schools.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/08/07/20090807chartercash0807.html

"Arizona has been awarded a $54 million federal grant to expand top-performing charter schools
and foster new ones across the state.

The state aims to open as many as 92 new campuses, particularly junior highs and high schools
offering advanced academic programs, and others that boost academic achievement among minority children and those from low-income families.

State officials said the five-year grant is the first of its kind for Arizona. Traditionally, charters in the state win individual grants by applying directly to the U.S. Department of Education. On this occasion, the federal government invited state education agencies to apply and use the grants to increase the number of charter schools in the country.

..Arizona was among five states awarded federal grants. Others were Louisiana, New Mexico, Tennessee and Wisconsin."

Note they got the money because they were pushing for more charter schools. They did not get the money, our tax money because they were having quality schools.

Not a good way to dole out tax money.
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