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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:59 PM
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How much tolerance do you have for saber rattling?
Make of that question what you will.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:01 PM
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1. Depends on who is doing the rattling.
:shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:01 PM
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2. And whom we are rattling sabers at and why
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 09:01 PM by Taverner
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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:33 PM
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12. Well said!
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:01 PM
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3. I do it all the time.
I think the world would be a much better place under MY liberal (hey, compared to most emperors) iron boot.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:02 PM
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4. Don't rattle your saber unless you intend to use it
that's how I feel.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:02 PM
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5. I am in a rattling mood I don't care about sabers
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:05 PM
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8. Exactly ,rattle with Maracas ,' Shake, Rattle & Roll '
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:03 PM
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6. Very high tolerance. The rattling sound means the saber is still sheathed.
I would rather it not come to even that, but will tolerate that to avoid bloodshed.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:04 PM
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7. Depends.
Will it bring about unwanted/unneeded bloodshed? :shrug:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:05 PM
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9. Being a Buffalo Sabres fan, I'm all for it. As far as political saber rattling - it's so tired.
:boring:

It sounds like the same shit that led up to Iraq. Total bullshit!
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:07 PM
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11. I watched the Kings rattle a few Sabres last season.
Haven't seen Sabre rattling like that in a long time...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:34 PM
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13. I was there watching them get rattled!
A normal occurrence almost every time Buffalo plays in LA. :-(
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:06 PM
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10. Don't know what that means, but I'll tell you this:
If those fucking Iranians don't stop working on nuclear weapons, I'm going to go over there personally and kick OhMyGinIsBad's ass. If Pakistan doesn't kick Al-Queda across the border into Afghanistan, they're on my shit-list too. And the Taliban? I'd crush them with the heel of my Ropers.

Sabre rattling, what is that anyway?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:42 PM
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15. Wake UP! The Iranians are well within the IAEA rules to enrich Uranium for Nuclear POWER.
Read below or watch the video segment of Scott Ritter, Former Weapons Inspector for the UN and then get back to us?

Bottom Line: The IAEA has stated that everything (all Uranium enrichment) has been accounted for.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/29/fmr_un_weapons_inspector_scott_ritter

Fmr. UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter Warns Against “Politically Motivated Hype” on Iran Nuke Program

SCOTT RITTER: Well, again, Iran is bound by its agreements with the International Atomic Energy Agency. These agreements are between Iran and the IAEA. You cannot compare Iran’s arrangement with the IAEA with any other nation, so it’s an absurd argument to begin with.

Second of all, Iran’s agreements with the IAEA are—you know, the current agreements go back to 2003 period, where Iran, in exchange for Europe and the United States recognizing the legitimacy of Iran’s nuclear aspirations—that means to enrich uranium for peaceful energy uses—Iran would voluntarily agree to what’s called the additional protocol of inspections, as well as what’s known as the Subsidiary Agreement. The Subsidiary Agreement requires Iran to declare any facility at the time that it intends to produce it, create it, to build it, as opposed to the old agreement, which said Iran must declare this facility 180 days prior to the insertion of nuclear material. Iran said, “We will abide by this additional protocol of inspections and the Subsidiary Agreement on a voluntary basis, until which time the Parliament of Iran ratifies these new agreements.” These have never been ratified, so this was a voluntary submission on the part of Iran.

The key here isn’t the technicality of the legal documents; it’s about the diversion of nuclear material. And the IAEA has a 100 percent accounting for the totality of Iran’s nuclear material. So, even if Iran produces this new facility, which, by the way, is not in operation and won’t be in operation for over a year, no nuclear material has been diverted, there still is a full material balance, and the IAEA is in complete control of the situation. Iran is not in violation.

This is not a reason to panic. This is much ado about nothing. But again, we come back to the original premise: this is about political hype, the United States hyping up a capability in Iran which doesn’t exist, and that is the capability to produce nuclear weapons.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:38 PM
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17. Can you grok "Tongue in Cheek"?
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JordanSmith73 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:41 PM
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14. Interesting
Interesting
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:42 PM
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16. You trying to make enough "Interesting" posts to be able to start a thread, or what? n/t
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