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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:50 PM
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Poll question: What is your view of the Polanski thing (looking for the female perspective)
As much as I hate to go near this subect I am indeed curious about what this means primarily for women.

I have worked with sexually active teens in the juvenile (in)justice system and where i live 13 year olds can have sex without breaking any laws if their partner is within two years of their age (in other words if there is MORE than 670 days age difference it is statutory rape).

I have worked with young pregnant teens who seemed to handle it okay and others not at all.

But here at DU I hear many views and the media has stuff all over the place (like Whoopee Goldberg's comments).

I am wondering though primarily what the women here at DU feel about this all.

My own view generally is that if the victim is over it it should be over with (and the hoopla is retraumatizing for the victim so the media frenzy just makes it worse - especially if she wants it over). But since I do not know the woman or her true feelings I am unsure of that position, I woder what other women here at DU (but have included a spot for men to weigh in).

Let me conclude by saying that I find what he did reprehensible and worthy of punishment (especially so if that is what the victim wants). I also feel that he should have the chance to face justice which is in accordance with his original plea deal (which was apparently not honored by the sentencing judge).



But what do you think?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:52 PM
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1. Female: He should be tried for fleeing. He's already been tiried for the crime. nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:35 PM
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18. Well, technically not tried
he pled out.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:53 PM
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2. Other: It's a boring and rehashed subject.
How long can this possibly stay interesting?
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:59 PM
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5. I know, but the first question in my mind was what does this community (women primarily) feel
I actually think this is a situation where community standards should apply.

But if I were an advocate for the victim here I tend to think it is her call. Just wondered what everyone else feels.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:02 PM
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7. So much time has passed, that this should be water under the bridge,
if that's the way the victim now feels.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:54 PM
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3. He needs to face justice.

He has managed to evade it for decades. He committed a violent sex crime. I don't give a damn who forgives who in this, he molested a child. Brutally.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:24 PM
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9. +10
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:17 PM
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17. +10
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:54 PM
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4. Other
Face the judge and let the chips fall where they may.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:01 PM
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6. What Polanski did was at the very least "date rape." He should be tried, but the victim
says she wants to put it behind her and not be reminded of it. I personally feel Polanski should serve some time for molesting a 13-year-old after giving her wine and sedatives.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:29 PM
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10. Seeing as this would have been all over and done with 30 years ago
had the original judge not abrogated the plea agreement, I think he should be sentenced in accordance with that original plea agreement. Hell, add six months for evading the sentencing hearing.

IMO, the United States is one of the greatest places in the world to live. He has been in exile from the US for more than 30 years. The plea agreement plus 30 years exile is sufficient.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:32 PM
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11. abrogated the plea agreement
can you clear this up. i read an article today that finally said the horrible thing judge wanted to do. him serve 48 days, the remaing days of 90 psych eval.

please tell me what your abrogated plea agreement is.

i haev not seen any actual info on this, just this.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:36 PM
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12. I think they're getting it from that pro-Polanski propaganda film
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:40 PM
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13. but but but.... i cant get anyone to tell me just what the outrage was. the only thing i saw
was a cnn report today saying it was the 48 of 90 days he didnt serve

and i really... do not see that as an abrogation to plea agreement. adn the man ran. over 48 days for rape.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:56 PM
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14. My understanding was that he would go into the sentencing facing
1-3 years, and that psyche evaluation would be included - so the probability would be he would serve 12-18 months. The judge wanted 10-30 years, meaning his minimum served would be @7 years. I don't have a link - it was just something I read.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:07 PM
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15. The judge wanted 10-30 years
i have not seeing verification of this anywhere.

i mean, nowhere.

i have to think, just how true it is. this would be explosive. so many of the powerful defending him. not even mention there is a rape. if the judge was gonna throw 10-30 on him, you would think every article, every current article would be yelling about the 10-30 yrs. what amunition that would give the pro polanski camp.

yet i have not ever seen it

gotta wonder the truth in it.

again i will say. the only number on jail time i have seen is 48 or his remaining 90 days in cnn article today.

surely cnn would haev put that judge was going for 10-30 years. what a story.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:13 PM
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16. Do you really think you are getting the truth from the MSM? nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:39 PM
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19. on something like this for the BIG story, at least as much as a documentary
siding with polanski that shares no fact

even if it is not cnn

why isnt any of the people saying anything other than judge reneged. if it is 10-30 yrs, everyone would be talking about it. it would not be hidden

doesnt that at LEAST make sense
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:09 PM
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20. DU Overall : 76% Punishment/ 19% "Let it go"/ / Women: 25 % say "Let it go"
Interesting.

I really wanted to see how women came down on this question and appreciate the responses.

I am sure each of our individual experiences plays heavily into these opinions.

But it tells me that it is not such a harsh conclusion (one woman to three women) that it is really up to the victim.

But still the majority is strong against this position: (i.e. the victims wishes are not what is determinative or maybe they just don't matter)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:32 PM
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21. I'm a hedonistic male, and I still think he is a slimy creep with a sense of entitlement
Oh...and "Chinatown" really isn't THAT good
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