Grayson should tone it down for a couple of days.

I agree with everything he's said, I agree that he absolutely should not apologize for a single word.

HOWEVER, I consider this guy a national treasure. It would be tragic if the rhetoric escalated to the point that he said something for which he did need to apologize.

there are the doers and the talkers. That said the congressman shouldn't back down or tone down.

mandate, without even any checks on the egregious practices of insurance companies and protecting them even further, and which will make things even worse than they are already, then they can forget it. It's better to have nothing than insurance mandates, with FINES, no less, especially with no public option.

needs to grow a spine like his.

He's already shown me he knows what the fuck is happening around him and I applaud him for having the balls to voice that. I want to see him get out there and keep on talking the talk so many of us want and need to hear. I'll get his back around here

It's about time someone stood up to the asshole repukes. :thumbsup:

Send him an email with your advice. If he agrees maybe he'll listen.

There are a lot of cameras pointed up at that particular balcony. It must be tempting to escalate the rhetoric to keep the attention on his issue (and him).

The invertebrates in the party might begin to emulate some of his behavior if Grayson doesn't crash and burn.

"ATTACK! ATTACK!" not "Jump! Jump!"

Yes, Dems aren't used to it. Many aren't comfortable with it. But IMO, it is necessary.

I don't want this spark to flame out, but I also don't want to see it burn up anything useful, and be forced to participate in pouring water on it.

He's already close to running afoul of Godwin's law.

They use the term all the time.

If your opponent brings it up first (the anti-choicers) and you respond in kind, can you trigger it again?

He needs to keep going while the momentum is good. If he continues to stand strong, the timid will see that a bold stance won't kill them dead and they will begin to speak up.

I hope he can stay on this side of that line, but I've seen Rhodes scholars fail.

fuck em if they don't like it, it's the truth and it's high time it was heard, too bad if it hurts anybody's feelings.

You ARE a Democrat, aren't you? They are all spineless and we want to keep it that way.

Seems to me that Grayson.......aimed just right......and kicked Neanderthal knuckle dragging ass.....appropriately. And its just about time.....to take it to them....

Go, Mr. Grayson!!!!

He's exactly what I've been hoping for in a Democrat my entire voting life.

I'm concerned about what he'll say next. The knuckle dragging neanderthal quip was good, but it was completely shooting from the hip. I want other Democrats to emulate him, but that won't happen if he crashes and burns.

And I have faith enough in him to say much more....

My fear is that Democrats are going to attempt to tone him down. It is time...to carry the fight to the numbskulls.

I want this guy to be in congress for a long time.

That is such a great idea! :eyes:

The publicity that Grayson is garnering because of his outspoken, truthful attacks on Republican obstructionism is wonderful for increasing support for the Public Option and Medicare For All supporters. The press has successfully confused the American public about what the public option means, Grayson is using his 15 minutes of fame (may it last for years) to turn the tables on the Republicans and their corporate owned media. We need more Graysons in the Democratic Party who can galvanize public attention on the true issues underlying our miserable, profits before people, health system.

I used to be an elected official. I learned my caution the hard way.

...because he is damned good at it, and we haven't been in the habit of playing offense.

While he is playing offense, the job of the rest of us who are on his side, is to be IN HIS CORNER and stop sniping. Leave the sniping to the rabid right, they certainly never hang back.

Democrats are not used to someone with a spine but Grayson does need to be careful with words that can be twisted and used against him, like holocaust.

Grayson is a Democratic rock star, I'd do him and I'm not even gay!

He should keep going as he is and we should reward him for it. Everyone who can should send him a few bucks and let him know why he is receiving our financial support. Let the others see how we support this guy with a spine. It may encourage them to grow some spines of their own.

Julie

1) He made it clear in terms average people can understand that Republicans are not on the side of the people
2) He generated enough interest to get the attention of the MSM and keep the message alive for more than one lousy segment

We whine and complain constantly how the MSM does not cover our POV. What Alan Grayson did is use exactly the tactics the RW has used, very effectively, against us for years. One of their crowd says something over the top. They get all kinds of coverage for that. Then the rest of the RW reps show up to talk about it and the message is usually something along the lines of thinking the person may have been a little over the top but the central message was correct. They capture days of news with this while we languish in invisible land.

They are systematic about it. They send an attack dog in front of a camera to say something inflammatory, to raise the bar at what is considered inflammatory. "The grownups" can then quietly pull back the leash and walk onto the new playing field on which the debate has shifted. In a few weeks, they send out the dog again.

That's the value in what Grayson has done. If he doesn't pull back, to allow other progressives to occupy the ground he's taken, it will have been for naught.

That's why Republicans are shitting their diapers. They want to slap Grayson down because they don't want Democrats to occupy that turf.

If they don't it's their own fault. He created an opening for them and if they sit cowering in their corners, afraid of their own voices, they are to blame, not Grayson. Perhaps today will show some of the MSM bringing on Democratic pudits to comment on Grayson. Perhaps they will find a way to say the rhetoric may have been over the top but that lack of action on health care has put the GOP in line for this criticism.

... they'll use him as a rationalization to be the mealy mouthed wimps they've always been.

I don't want him to fail.

He's got the in your face attitude of the right armed with the facts and compassion of the left. Everybody should get his back NOW...

Can't they see that the Repubs are starting to get pushed off balance, by the words of just ONE man?

What will they do if TWENTY Democrats get up there and call them on their bullshit?

It will knock them off their game plan, which is to control the debate. It is what they have been doing to us for twenty freakin' years now.

Turnabout is fair play. Let them get their panties in a wad for a change.

Grayson has shifted the debate, now other progressives must occupy that turf before the media finds a way to discredit him.

Funny way of saying it.

It is an exceptional person who can remain in a protracted ad-lib argument that can avoid saying something regrettable.

Look, one of my heroes is Jim McDermott. He screwed the pooch. Now he's right, but discredited - Nearly as bad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6671755

The man obviously knows what he's doing. You may not like his style, or you may not trust that all will work out well... but IMO you just need to stow your fearfulness for now.

I think that other democrats will emulate him, provided he succeeds.

:wtf:

We need as few more high-voltage attackers to start drowning out the destructive noise coming from the right.

For varying reasons, they all went over an invisible edge which brought discredit to their issues.

I don't know much about him, except he's a lawyer who represents whistleblowers. He also seems tough and ready to fight. We'll see how he holds up.

He was grounded in reality too. He crossed a line, and now he's ineffective.

Andrew Weil is a doctor. Deepak Chopra is a doctor. McDermott, by the way, is a psychiatrist, and there've been more than a few of those who needed psychiatry of their own.

But a lawyer, like this guy, is trained to win fights using words and logic. I'm not worried about Grayson. I think he can take care of himself. We need more like him hitting back all the time.

...except insofar as he already has.

Yeah, I'd like to see him focusing on issues rather than hurling feel-good personal insults.

There's substance that needs addressing first, Grayson.

He is hiting them with a Ali Punch and they don't like that treatment.

Most have never called them out on anything.