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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:33 AM
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W.H. didn’t make calls backing public option
The White House did not lobby senators on the Finance Committee before they rejected two amendments that would have added a public option to the panel’s healthcare reform plan.

The lack of political pressure from President Barack Obama and his lieutenants is the latest indication of the White House’s lagging interest in passing healthcare reform that calls for a large government role.

Despite consistently calling for the idea of a government-run health plan to keep pressure on private companies, Senate leaders say neither the president nor any White House officials lobbied Democrats on the Finance Committee, which voted down two public option amendments offered by Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) on Tuesday.

Both Schumer, who is vice chairman of the Democratic Conference, and Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) say they are unaware of any phone calls from the administration to Finance Democrats to push for a successful vote on the amendments.

http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/healthcare/61289-wh-didnt-make-calls-on-public-option

*Sigh*
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:36 AM
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1. so, the WH is leaving Congress to get the blame for any health bill. That
is the way I read it.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:39 AM
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4. That is NOT leadership. That is NOT affecting CHANGE we can believe in.
That is bullshit.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:46 AM
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5. Bingo
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:57 AM
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9. That is a phony opposition-to-corporate-rule party within a phony Rep Democracy
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:20 AM
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19. Bullshit from the start. Duped and bullshitted all for bi-partisanSHIT.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:07 PM
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47. C'mon. It is rather obvious when he is talking about bipartisanship with criminals


....who needs prosecution...

He should his cards when he was in the Senate.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:38 AM
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2. Underscoring perceptions that a staffer failed to tell him he won the election, and
is now the President. Or maybe the memo telling him had a typo; instead of "You are now the President", it said, "You are not the President." I'm sorry, there's no excuse for this.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:38 AM
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3. If he fights for something, he might lose. Better to float above it all
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 09:38 AM by QC
and make those pretty, sermon-like speeches.

As Homer Simpson once said, "Trying is the first step toward failure."
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:56 AM
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8. Sums it up very nicely.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:59 AM
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11. Thanks, but it's frustrating to see how risk-averse he is.
That, not anything the Republicans can throw at him, is he greatest risk to his hopes for a successful presidency.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:45 AM
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25. I agree. He's intelligent, eloquent & charismatic; but he's the diplomat when a fighter is needed.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:47 AM
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26. I absolutely 100% agree with this assessment.
:thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:50 AM
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6. And this sort of shit is why I'm criticizing Obama on his
healthcare reform "efforts".
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:25 AM
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22. i'm with you on this one, Cali -- very disappointing.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:55 AM
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7. To me, Obama has been completely transparent on this, judging by Rahm's actions
along with the leaks coming from Tauzin and Baucus, and the lack of any push for a public option (the way we define it, not his weasely definition) in any of his speeches.

I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that we were ripped off brutally last November. Our president lied to us and extracted our last bit of hope before turning on us.

And yes, I was an Obama supporter from the first moments of his campaign in 2007.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:00 AM
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12. I got an IM saying you posted something very harsh about President Obama
from a fellow primary and general election battler.

I just laughed, so many have not waken up to it yet.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:22 AM
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28. LOL
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 11:44 AM by Autumn
I'm sorry :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Notified via an IM about someone posting something very harsh about President Obama? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Edited to add. I always enjoy your posts and I am defiantly not laughing at you.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:52 AM
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30. It was pretty hilarious
they were worried about me because I have rational thought.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:45 AM
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29. But when I suggest there's a blindly loyal Pro-Obama army on here, I'm a nutball
It isn't very hard to spot---just find the people who are bending over backwards to rationalize Obama's corporatist behavior.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:29 PM
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35. No, he's "playing chess".
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:00 PM
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45. That army is quickly diminishing.
I was for him from the beginning, donated time and money, and until fairly recently thought he could be an FDR-type leader. He's done a great job disabusing me of that naive hope.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:23 PM
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48. he's not even....
....stepping up to be a LBJ-type leader....

....we now know this 'healthcare reform bill' is going to be worthless crap....NO robust Public Option for all, then NO mandate to force everyone to buy insurance....they're to take a bad system and make it worse....

....this whole exercise has set real healthcare form back decades....
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
33. and?? so??? who cares?
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:28 PM
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42. rudy 23
I was not! I was a Hillary person and I think we would have been better off with her as the POTUS and health reform would have beenn acted on before Teddy's death. What a shame! What a waste!!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:58 AM
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10. Change we can Believe in
:rofl:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:10 AM
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14. Indeed.


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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:11 AM
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15. Call it as you see it, but the fat lady has not sung yet. nt
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 10:12 AM by wroberts189
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:19 AM
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18. Oh, right. He's playing chess. For those of you still pushing that meme, watch
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:01 AM
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27. Not Chess... Poker. ... wait for the fat lady.. the song will be good. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:02 AM
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13. Maybe cause it'd be better if that half-assed crap DIED in committee?
:think:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:31 AM
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24. shhh! The usual Reactionary Screamers on DU are too busy pretending to be so fucking smart
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 10:32 AM by KittyWampus
Exactly why I don't bother much with DU anymore.

All the idiots reacting to this and they couldn't even begin to explain what good it would have done to have Obama beat his head against a wall.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:05 PM
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46. Please see this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4085289

He went to bat for the Baucus plan (without the PO, of course).
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:15 AM
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16. So tell me again why did Obama even bring it up to reform healthcare.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:17 AM
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17. And then request that the bill come out of the right-wing FINANCE committee. Recipe for failure.
Or a bull-shit bill at best.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:24 AM
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20. I honestly wish they would scrap the idea at this point.
I think, with Obamas help, we very well may get change that actually causes things to be worse, AND everybody is going to say that healthcare reform has been passed so there is no reason to revisit it for 50 years or so.
The worst of everything.
Oh, yeah, and those sweetheart deals for the pharmaceutical and insurance companies. I think that is the the corporations ripping us off with the approval and enforcement of the government.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:25 AM
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21. He's playing multidimensional chess, huh?
More like getting his ass kicked in checkers.

In another dimension, George W. Bush would have already had Single Payer implemented.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:49 PM
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43. Our very own Spock!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:28 AM
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23. Why would he bother wasting his time? It was a foregone conclusion what pile of crap would come out
of that committee.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:13 PM
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32. Because he cares about us citizens and our needs?
or not...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:55 AM
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31. If it is scripted all the way through conference committee why would you make a phone call

Dean, Schumer and Harkin have all said that they are 100% sure that the public option will be in the conference bill.


Some folks need a no vote now so that they can vote yes later.


Seems rather obvious.


The fact that the President didn't make any phone calls is a good sign, as we know that when it is needed he is a phonoholic.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:29 PM
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34. Lotta hate in this thread.
I agree with you, gc...


But the hate around here, just like poop, floats.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:02 PM
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39. As Lord Helmut so eloquently stated about a simliar thread..
"Fly paper for the perpetually digruntled."

And Cake Girl keenly observed.. "A siren call to all the long standing Obama detrators and ignorant of the big picture to boot"


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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Yep, yep.....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:36 PM
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36. Go ahead and laugh, but I think they have a plan to just get anything through
the Senate then in Committee get the bill we WANT. I think they saw early on they weren't going to get ANYTHING from the Reps or Blue Dogs, so just let the course of events play out until they are in a position to actually DO something themselves. Just my opinion, based on stuff that Harkin and Shumer have said.

Before when I've been frustrated/angry with Obama, it has turned out he had a plan all along, just didn't see fit to share it with me :7
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:53 PM
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37. Kinda like Jesus...
:rofl:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:56 PM
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38. Nope -- Jesus has never proven anything to me. Obama has. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:09 PM
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41. I'm not laughing but then I've
been paying attention.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:41 PM
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44. Sad. They've got their govt.-sponsored healthcare already. nt
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:35 PM
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49. Why in hell is Obama NOW calling ROCKEFELLER to pressure him to support Baucus's corporate welfare?
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 09:37 PM by Faryn Balyncd


(when he refused to use his influence on the blue dogs to get them to vote for Rockefeller's amendment?)


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4085289






K&R
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