Do you really hate PETA? Really?

For what? Some of their members are whacko? Ummm...not to put to fine of a point on it, but if you are posting here, take a look around. Some of "our" members are whackos too.

Go through these photos. Take a good look at the monkeys/rabbits/dogs in labs....

Now, name ONE other organization that has done as much for animal welfare in the US.

And note the idiots that will post here about how "tasty" meat is. Waaa--hoooy! Enjoy your meat.... you ARE eating a bad death. Does that feel good? Groovy! Go for it. Hope you sleep well! If you really aren't concerned...you won't bother to post here.

http://www.peta.org/feat/PETAMilestones/index.html

"Well meaning fools" is exactly the right way to put it.

:rofl:

EDIT: The "fool" part only, I meant.

you keep me in line, plus I'm one of those who occasionally enjoys a good snark to smack me in the face.

:rofl:

Jeffrey Dahmer's final words: "I used to eat guys like you for lunch."

?

... to advance your cause, and a way to shoot yourself in the foot. PETA seems to mostly find the latter.

:thumbsup:

How sweet is that?

Do we hate PETA? Fuck yeah we do.

Here's a photo for you:

I probably have no business on this thread. :shrug:

:rofl:

Hang in there, Pool Hall Ace. :)

Then "Seig Heil!"

:heel-clicking salute: :rofl:

;)

:shrug:

I'll go check it out! :hi:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:popcorn:

animals.

They are not an animal welfare organization. They are animal rights which in their screwed up world means people would not be able to have any use for animals--including pet ownership, which these nutjobs believe is slavery.

It's amazing how you managed to read the mind of every single PETA worker, manager, and supporter in the world.

Do you also do Bar Mitzvahs and weddings? :shrug:

If laying on your ass, getting free room and board, a nice big back yard to lay in the sun in all, your medical paid for and really cool toys to play W/ is slavery then sign me up.

I treat them with the scorn and derision they so richly deserve. But in the end I do not hate them, they are not worth that much of my attention.

Overall, I think the things they've succeeded at are things that I agree with, and the parts of their message I don't agree with haven't had any affect on me...

Continue to walk on your water... out of my earshot.

interesting response.

You said "We", so I suppose you tag team it.:shrug:

He's probably referring to her.

And shame he defends so vehemently an organization not important enough for him to belong in.

He must want a high post count thread.:thumbsup:

is that they value animal lives more then human lives. So fuck PETA. By definition if you are PETA, you are nuts. Now you've made me want a steak. Medium rare.

nt

Is there more than one of you in there? That would explain alot.

we aren't members of PETA

Specifically: "they value animal lives more then human lives"

just knee jerk "but I heard this..." reaction.

well on your way to full cult-like indoctrination.

or the nasty way lab animals are treated in this country? Yeah. Maybe you should get "indoctrinated" too. The animal farming/ lab industry is pretty disgusting.

And they are no less a cult of stupidity.

PETA doesn't want me to benefit from animals,whether it's food, clothing, medical care, etc. But you already knew that didn't you?

Or, of course, you could simply fall back on personal attacks. :shrug:

"Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses."
-- Ingrid Newkirk (elevating "Livestock" above the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust).

"Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They are all mammals."
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth."
-- Ingrid Newkirk

I have more of you want them.

Cheers!

You'll have to tell me what hyperbole I'm accused of this time.

Including the last one.

Have a nice day.

I'm glad we could chat about my superb writing. It's one of my favorite subjects.

Ah, good times! :toast:

Right...so...anyway....

What's this hyperbole you mentioned?

Do I have to post the definition of hyperbole also? Do I need to draw you a picture? Do I need to spell it out in Big Bird words with less than 3 syllables?

It ain't gonna happen.

Even when you're given exactly and precisely what you demand you simply ignore it.

Cheers!

Here are the subject lines of every post I've made in this thread:



Which ones, specifically, suffer from hyperbole? How, precisely, are these words hyperbolic?

Please do use small words, though, since you believe I'm hopelessly stupid, yet you exhibit far too much cowardice to come right out and say so. :hi:

What does PETA want?

I shouldn't eat meat.

I shouldn't hunt.

I shouldn't fish.

I shouldn't benefit from drugs being tested on animals.

Are these examples not what PETA advocates?

Here's a quick quiz: If I say that the GOP supports eating babies for breakfast, and someone asks me for support for my claim, which of the following responses would be appropriate?

1. "I just told you, they wanna eat babies! BABIES!!!1!!11!!" ...or...
2. "Here's a direct quote from the current, official, published GOP platform, from the following URL, blah blah blah."

I've edited my post above to clarify the specific assertion you made. Please support your assertion.

that PETA is very much in favor of all the things I mentioned. Btw, your baby comparison is stupid.

You can dislike my analogy all you like. I'm not fussed. :hi:

But you still have provided nothing in the way of support for your assertion.

So...shall we sum up your response as a big, fat, smelly "got nothing," then?

site. I'm sure it's all there for you.

No matter how much of PETA's misanthropy is posted, he'll simply ignore it and claim none was provided. There's no sense in going back and forth with a 5 yr old as if they were an adult. It's better just to show why they are acting like a 5 yr old.

How do those Newkirk quotes support the assertion that "they {PETA} value animal lives more then {sic} human lives?"

Could you try to reply intelligently, honestly, and without personal attacks, please?
I realize I'm asking for a lot, but what's the worst that could happen if you were to actually follow the DU rules for a change? :shrug:

You accuse others of sock puppetry, and now you want to pretend others are violating the rules? How rich.

You've already proven you have no interest in any sort of reasonable discussion. Now I'll invite you to go bugger off.

Have a nice day.

So you are either unwilling or unable to provide any support for your accusations that I'm the bogeyman?

All you have to offer are personal attacks and farcical insults, closely followed by a testy "tactical retreat" when your bluster is challenged?

Well, despite the vicissitudes of fortune, it's nice to see that some things never change. :)

In the spirit of camaraderie, I'll make a few unsupported assertions as well:

1. The moon is made of green cheese.
2. Reading Nietzsche will turn you into a pedophile.
3. The earth is hollow, and inhabited by Morlocks.
4. Obama wants to kill your granny with his death panels.
5. Computers love ice cream. Spoon it right in!

Whee! No support necessary! I can say anything I want and it's automatically true! :woohoo:

or stoned? See post #73.

Or, are you attempting to say that Mr. Chode speaks for you, rather than going to the trouble of providing your own support?

to think about what those benefits mean. Do you really need to eat meat from animals that are treated cruelly and die horrible deaths? Do you really, truly need to wear products from those animals when so many others are available? Do you? Or do you just want to keep on living the way we do?

RAWR!!!

They can cross the line into dangerous territory. But mostly they're just silly fringe people.

There are lots of different flavors of fringe people. Some are right here on DU.

do they post things that you find distateful?

Like the chickens getting their beaks cut off? Or the calves covered in shit? Do you find that the photos are crossing the line, or the animal abuse itself?

I'm not inclined to debate it cuz you clearly have a chip on your shoulder and are to prove something or another.

Find someone else to do that part with.

I stand by "fringe".

nt

they do hurts their cause more than it helps. Your average person probably loves animals but eats meat. I think they would serve a better purpose if some of the things they did weren't so out there. I do appreciate what they do for animals, but sometimes I think they push people further away with some of their antics.

http://www.hsus.org/

they do more tangible good for animals than PETA and they do it w/o making fools of themselves and promoting some sort of utopia where animals are equal to humans

opposes the very idea of pets and livestock.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. NOTHING else that anyone can say to me about PETA will affect how I feel about them in the slightest.

cease to exist? Livestock? Ummmm no. According to their website, they want the corporate farms to stop abusing animals.

"Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses."
-- Ingrid Newkirk (elevating "Livestock" above the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust).

"Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They are all mammals."
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth."
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether."
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"I don’t use the word 'pet.' I think it’s speciesist language. I prefer 'companion animal.' For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship — enjoyment at a distance. "
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV. "
-- Ingrid Newkirk

"..Put that in your pipe and smoke it. NOTHING else that anyone can say to me about PETA will affect how I feel about them in the slightest"

Oh WOWWW...You're some big kinda real rebel, ain't ya?...I am SO impressed..not.

You're one person...What you think isn't, in the big picture, all that important..Get over it.:eyes:

Thanks for being my "far away vet" -- you perform a public service here in times of need.

Hekate

and both he and his wife have photos in the house of our departed pets from childhood. We have a great relationship with our Vet.

to animals. I know vets who work for CAFOs, and completely ignore the animal suffering there. Is there no veterinary Hippocratic Oath?

that train vets?

They break the bones to learn to set them.

They cause the problems to learn to deal with the problems.

I knew one young woman that couldn't finish her studies, she couldn't hurt the animal assigned to her for the semester, the one that had to be harmed so she could learn to heal it. The one that was to be put to sleep at the end of the semester.

as to their success rate or an insensitive prick in relation to animal suffering.

Once I get that solved we can talk about the other species.

time" people.

Excellent.

You probably shouldn't have clicked on this thread then.

and living in tents and cars. Forgive me, animal testing takes a back burner for a little while in where I place my energy.

do you blame people who are putting their energy towards helping them?

Go for it. Like I said, I connect more with people than animals.

PETA gets all the press because of their ridiculous antics, but the humane society is there every day plugging away for animals - without the hoopla, the movie stars baring their all, and all the other crap they do. humane society also does NOT elevate animals to the same level as humans.

some have to keep it small to matter I guess.

earth. Our animals are just as much as part of this earth as we are. We should be able to share this place without destroying it or the animals or each other.

And what an adorable toddler!

for food. I guess we can get the lion to become a vegan.

to go about it.

However, like I said up thread. People are being made homeless right now because of the economy. I'm not exactly that worried about what PETA thinks right now.

I do try to do right by animals every day if I can. Small choices people make can really effect animals.

but from my experience with PETA in college and people I know, they tend to come from a class of people that have never been exposed to real human suffering.

Generally, and I'm sure there are exceptions they are upper middle class people looking for a cause to find meaning in their life.

back in the roaring nineties, when the economy was growing?
I think not. There is always enough time and energy to care
about people and animals at the same time.

Compassion and empathy are not limited. The more you care...
the more you care.

Nature is brutal... gorey, brutal, cruel, all of that stuff.

We can be kinder to the animals we raise for food, no question, but to take their accusations to the extreme, well, I think they then lose support they would have normally had for kinder treatment.

I don't support cruelty but it isn't unique to our species.

We are the smarter species, right? We can survive without having to kill in a gruesome and tortuous manner.

Like, I said there are bigger concerns for me. I don't like PETA because they have a warped sense of the animal world and man's place in it (we are animals after all).

try surviving without biodiversity.

are different than the question on whether or not I like to eat chicken.

As far as wackos in PETA goes, perhaps they do have some sane members, but head loon Ingrid Newkirk is running the show and she's definitely a nut of the first order.

As far as naming "ONE" organization, I could name several, such as the HSUS, SPCA, WCS, and WWF, all of which have done far more for animal welfare. PETA isn't even in the same league. Hell they aren't even in the same sport.

I'm sure you think those who go on about how "tasty" meat is are bigger idiots that those who try to denigrate those who do eat meat, but you're wrong. You do more to repress the cause of animal welfare than you will ever know, just like the rest of PETA. The reason is because people come to associate the cause of animal welfare with nutbaggery.

How am I repressing anything by posting this?

I WILL denigrate meat eaters of factory farmed meat because they (you?) are willfully ignorant, and choose to participate in cruelty.

Know where your meat comes from? OK with it? Then we don't have an issue. I don't hate meat eaters, just ignorant jackasses.

I could really give a rat's ass (pardon the pun) if you're a member of PETA or not. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck (pardon the pun).

Yes I know where my meat comes from and yes I'm OK with it.

Cheers!

die in fear?

Fabulous!

The best argument you have is an appeal to emotion, which is a logical fallacy, and it's also known as bullshit.

It's just like a so-called 'pro-lifer' that shoves a picture of an aborted fetus in your face and asks you if you are OK with killing babies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

So perhaps you've bought into the bullshit so deep that you believe it yourself, and I sincerely hope that's true because clearly you have no clue about the very causes you claim to support. I saw your two bit trick coming before you ever wrote it and I'm going to expose it for exactly what it is. I suggest you try again on someone who is weak minded enough to buy into it. Nobody here is biting.

Have a nice day.

bothered to respond. No one could name another organization that fights for factory farmed animals rights...all all the posters can do is write:

"I hate them!"

nt

Another organization was named (more than once in fact) that does far more for that cause. You're just ignorant of the very cause you claim to be so passionate about.

The HSUS gets legislation passed. PETA is too busy playing media whore and supporting terrorism.

Cheers!

What's this about terrorism, though?

When animal terrorists manage to get their dumb asses caught, Newkirk picks up their legal bills. She's made a number of statements supporting 'direct action' (AKA terrorism). When her good buddy, ALF/ELF arsonist Rod Coronado, finally got busted for his terrorism, guess who received documents from the lab and a videotape of the carnage as it was going down? The federal attorney suspected Newkirk was involved, but no charges were filed. I suspect she bankrolled the operation in exchange for proof, and I'm pretty sure the federal attorney did also, but unfortunately they didn't pursue the matter. After ALF/ELF commits terrorist acts and the regular media outlets won't publish their claims of responsibility, Newkirk publishes their manifesto garbage on PETA's website.

but to allow those other loonies to associate with people like that, who jeopardize the entire organization?

Damn... that's kinda way past stupid, really.

Oh Im sorry.. "loaned" with no need to repay...

Go about your business. Every thing the news says is true. Everything the news doesn't say is true. Everything is okay. Go about your business. Shopping makes you happy. Live to work to shop. Shopping makes you happy. Terrorism. Al Qaeda. Terrorism. Peta. Terrorism. Alf.

Just wondering.

who fight cruelty to factory farmed animals. I just donated to them: Humane Farming and Farm Sanctuary.

I don't have to "hate" PETA to think (based on the evidence) that they are misguided at best in attaining their stated goals. Dislike of PETA doesn't mean that I or anyone else "hates" animals and wants them to suffer.

Hekate
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http://www.hsus.org/about_us/faqs/
HSUS is directly affiliated with the following:
Humane Society International: various countries
Interfaith Council for the Protection of Animals & Nature: Atlanta, Ga.
Humane Society: Youth: East Haddam, Conn.
Cape Wildlife Center: West Barnstable, Mass.
Wildlife Land Trust: Gaithersburg, Md.
Center for Earth Concerns of Costa Rica (CEC): Heredia, Costa Rica
HSUS Hollywood Office: Encino, Calif.
Doris Day Animal League: Washington, D.C.

http://www.aspca.org/about-us/about-the-aspca.html
Who We Are
The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) was the first humane society to be established in North America and is, today, one of the largest in the world. Our organization was founded by Henry Bergh in 1866 on the belief that animals are entitled to kind and respectful treatment at the hands of humans, and must be protected under the law. Headquartered in New York City, the ASPCA maintains a strong local presence, and with programs that extend our anti-cruelty mission across the country, we are recognized as a national animal welfare organization. We are a privately funded 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation, and proud to boast more than 1 million supporters across the country.
What We Do
As the first humane organization to be granted legal authority to investigate and make arrests for crimes against animals, we are wholly dedicated to fulfilling the ASPCA mission through nonviolent approaches. Our organization provides local and national leadership in three key areas: caring for pet parents and pets, providing positive outcomes for at-risk animals and serving victims of animal cruelty. For more on our work in each of these areas, please see descriptions below of our programs and initiatives.
History
Incorporated in 1866 by a special act of the New York State legislature, the ASPCA has a history rich in challenges and victories—from providing care and protection for the city’s working horses and transforming dog pounds into professionally run adoptions facilities to founding an animal hospital that is still running today.
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or the fur trade, have they?

They just go out every day and save animals that are abused and mistreated.

BTW I heard Canada was starting up the baby seal hunt again, I still see people wearing furs, factory farming is STILL going on.

Don't kill flies, or PETA will be on your ass.

I'm not a fan of the PR arm of PETA, but I do think that they serve a valuable role in undercover investigations that some of the more reputable/mainstream AR orgs won't touch.

Of course some people here are highly offended that some don't eat meat. I've seen posts here on DU where people are bragging about frying up a great big steak in the vegetarian threads. I don't try to convert the flesh eaters, so I'm curious as to what is so offensive to some about veganism/vegetarism. If you want to eat cadavers, more power to you. I don't give a fuck, but it really isn't as cool as some of you think it is to gnaw on flesh.

cadavers. Is that any different? You are projecting your stance on others by saying such things. And you can say that is what it is, but you are definitely putting down others while saying such things.

I do eat meat, btw. I do a lot for the animal community. I research who I buy my meat from. But still, I think saying those kinds of things turns more people away than not.

and the disdain shown for those with differing opinions, who, in your world-view, are dead wrong.

You can almost smell the Smug.

I offer you exhibit A.

and yes, i really do love a good steak.
and i sleep just fine when my tummy is full of delicious meat.

for their for their stomach and their wallets than about the suffering of innocents.

They can be a bit extreme and I don't agree with ALL of their views.

That being said, they do care about animals..Which makes them, IMO, a better class of human than many.

We just don't think jackass nutbaggery is the way to get the rest of the world on our side.

P.S. Most seem to care more for their for their stomach and their wallets than about the suffering of innocents = "you're either wit' us or ag'st us" - GW Bush

I've seen some of the property damage, years of research ruined, and ill-conceived ideas of releasing animals that cannot survive in the wild that PETA has sponsored up close and personal.

Such a waste.

beautiful, sensitive dogs. Such a waste.

What alternative method for conducting research on biological, mammalian systems do you recommend? What other animal is going to become a model system so your beagles can be saved?

You may not like the fact that research is done on animals, but I bet you'd be front and center to get the treatments derived from animal research if your ass was on the line. In fact, unless you are some kind of religious nut who rejects all medicine, you probably already have.

If you have, you are no better than a person chewing on veal decrying the sins of raising farm animals.

People's asses are on the line So it is not a "waste"...it is a regrettable necessity.

So tell me, do you approve of breaking into labs, destroying equipment and data, and releasing animals found in the lab into the wild so they can die horrible deaths? This what PETA has done.

testing or animal ingredients. Won't get an H1N1 because of the use of eggs in flu shots. Got a seasonal flu shot this year, but made a major contribution to two anti-vivsection orgs the same day, to try and speed up the day when we are no longer using animals in these ways. In general, I try to avoid anything with animal ingredients, or which has been tested on animals.

I don't approve of violence of any kind. Please provide a link showing that PETA engages in such acts.

not unlike your own post - "you ARE eating a bad death. Does that feel good? Groovy!".

Sounds like you're twelve years old.

chicken fried sandwich?

You sound like you are unenlightened.

Why would I not be comfortable eating meat - something humans everywhere have done since forever? Because some little snit thinks it's wrong? :rofl:

:eyes:

I eat my chicken grilled or baked, generally.

And yes, as a member of a species that has evolved to be omnivorous, I will sleep perfectly fine with my 'unenlightened' :eyes: bad self, along with the full moral implications of having eaten a chicken.

There isn't a SINGLE topic better than PETA for bringing out the idiots.

People Eating Tasty Animals! How original and funny! :rofl: NEVER heard that before.

Yum, steak. I'm hoping someday to learn to use utensils to eat it.

This is the world belonging to humans, so fuck the animals. Let 'em fucking suffer, cuz they taste good. Double fuck those terrorists, PETA.

Cracks me up every single time they come up. Morons.

need a punching bag ... then drag out PETA (that always brings out the same old crap jokes, haha, NOT) ... this gets really old and is so beneath DU ... sad some always resort to it. :-(

...so will you marry me? :D

Actually, I'm sure she wouldn't. ;)

:evilgrin:

:rofl:

thats done a lot for animal welfare vs. peta -the humane society

http://www.hsus.org/

and they don't pull all the ridiculous crap that PETA does.

Was that all just a big pack of lies? The 17,000 animals?

What's the logic there?

per Newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/id/134549


There are lots of no-kill shelters that claim they could take those animals in. It just doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe those no-kill shelter people are all lying? Just to smear PETA?

They're a shelter of last resort much like many animal controls. Nice thing is that PETA euthanizes humanely rather than via a gas chamber or .22 to the head, which is what the shelters they take animals from do.

Those are details garnered from facts, not from right wing web sites.

And people critical of organizations that have the unfortunate responsibility of taking care of this human-driven problem should shut the fuck up until they put their time and money where their mouths are.

when handling animals.

Otherwise, the say and do stupid stunts.

I don't think that their PR-centric approach to animal rights advocacy does the movement much good in most cases. However, their investigations have revealed some shocking, horrible mistreatment of animals that would have otherwise been ignored, covered up, or brushed over without good video evidence.

PETA will just have to get in line.

My :popcorn: is a little dry.

they hold the entire organization, all the folks associated with it, guilty of the crimes of a few.

They overlook or totally ignore the good things the organization has done and continues to do because of the extreme actions of a few or because of some perceived wrongs done in the organizations name.

It is lazy, small minded and just plane dumb, but whatcha going to do. It's the easy thing to do.

look at the responses on this thread. Freaky, eh.

By the way, I so need to PM you! (and I always want to hear about Winston. Everytime I see your DU name, I think "I wonder how Winston is!")

It always makes them so happy to be pampered.

:hi:

Like, for instance, the ad campaign that unapologetically equated my relatives who died in concentration camps with chickens at KFC.

Actually, some PETA members I like just fine- I had a year in college where I lived with a couple serious animal rights activists. But PETA, the organization?

They aren't anything like ACORN- if anything, they're like anti-choice extremists; painting the world in an impossible scheme of black and white, advocating an extreme agenda (citizenship for chickens, rights for single cells) that only a nut would seriously contemplate implementing. Fuck them and their idiotic poseur absolutism.

I mean, ACORN fired it's screwball employees as soon as they learned of it.

Whereas PETA... well...

You hate PETA and overlook the good they do.

Maybe the better thing would be to say like the way the right, moderates, conservatives, hate the left, for all of the extreme things a few do.

Ever wonder why everybody loves the Humane Society but PETA's a laughingstock?

I just don't hate them and I don't become a thread bully every time they are discussed.

But you have admitted how much fun it is to fight folks - the free entertainment is what does it for you.

“Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses."

“Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth.”

“Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works.”

“There’s no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They’re all animals.”

"That's what the Nazis did, isn't it? Treated those "others" they thought subhuman by making them lab subjects and so on. Even the Nazis didn't eat the objects of their derision."

"I’m not only uninterested in having children. I am opposed to having children. Having a purebred human baby is like having a purebred dog; it is nothing but vanity, human vanity."

"Even if animal experiments did result in a cure for AIDS, of which there is no chance, I’d be against it on moral grounds."

I could go on and on and on.

In short - fuck PETA.

:wow:

glitch dupe

especially with hummus or chickpeas.



Oh you mean PETA not Pita...well, then....:freak:

They hold that important space of absolutism on animal rights. We need PETA to keep moving the discussion in that direction. They may be over the top, but if they weren't, no one would notice them or consider much that they promote.

that other forms of life, outside are own, may have rights, is a key element of growth and awareness, and can play an intrinsic part in developing compassion and empathy. That's not only my own instinctual view, but happens to be important in Buddhism and Native American religions for example. PETA goes to the extreme, but who else has been as active against all the torture, experiments etc.?
Then let others become active, and find ways to stop these things!
They are real. Cruelty is not cool!

PETA is doing good works and that is not in dispute, still, the negative impacts upon our food chain go beyond the focus of PETA

because it is wrong to kill bacteria to save a boy as there is no difference in their worth.

no thanks

But I could be wrong.

and wish them success, animals need a voice in this world. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

and people who harm animals are scum.

the cause with the methods they use.

I think it's bullshit.

:thumbsup:

When I open up the newspaper and read about dogs rescued from underground fighting rings, or abandoned kittens, or injured animals being treated and released back into the wild, do you know whose name I never ever see taking part in helping the animals?

PETA.

You know when I do see PETA's name? When they're making over-the-top, offensive, misanthropic, attention-grabbing nonsense in order to get noticed by the media.

I support my local humane society because I see them doing things to promote animal wellness all the time. I do not support PETA, because whenever I see them they're minimizing the Holocaust, calling people whales, and generally displaying the social skills have a mouthy, anti-social fourteen year old.

I don't hate them, but I have zero use for them. I think they do more harm than good and suck up attention from far worthier organizations who do far more, organizations where the people who do the hard work aren't running off at the mouth because they like reading their name in the paper as much as possible.

In fact, I find them very amusing and it's difficult to take them seriously.

Like issuing a press release lecturing President Obama for daring to kill a fly during a TV interview.

is by its leadership and the leadership at PETA is bat shit crazy, hypocritical and unrealistic.

Their policy of "PET OWNERSHIP = SLAVERY" is retarded, and so are some of their methods. Some of their aims are noble, but the good they do is drowned out by the stupid, incendiary crap they do.

Also, I eat chicken, steak, and pork--and you know what I do at night?







































I sleep! And I mean like a LOG, too.

"Now, name ONE other organization that has done as much for animal welfare in the US."

How many species on the brink of extinction have they saved and brought back to thriving because they had, and still have the wisdom to tell well meaning people in government and private citizens, to just leave nature alone? Many more than PETA does by telling people that purebred min pins should be wild animals and "Emancipated from their suburban slavery".

They're liars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MblfdR459Rk

You may be familiar with the man behind CCF. Rachel Maddow's been doing expose's on him lately. Man by the name of Berman. A liar for profit.

Sad to see people posting his bs on a progressive site.

How about the court that convicted both peta workers?

What they were doing was not sanctioned by PETA. You're citing people who used exactly the same tactics we decry when used against ACORN.

But Peta owned the van , peta owned the drugs and Peta owned the freezer.

I'm not going to argue W/ you I have 4 rescue dogs and a rescue cat Fuck Peta they're not getting a dime of my money and I go out of my way to go to their protests and eat hamburgers in front of them

That's just sick.

My dogs and cat ( and YOUR dog) eat more regularly and more nutritious food than 70% of the world's population.

or any other organization that thinks it is fighting for the little man/defensless critters with paws and fur. Whatever, just don't get to close to those powerlines.

But other than that I think they do a lot of good work and I support them fully. Meat is murder.

pics of the naked painted girl in the cage