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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:31 AM Original message |
Do you think the sentiment to start a third party to the left of the Democrats is strong? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. It depends on what their platform would be - they have to have independents vote for them |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. a good platform and articulate leaders, otherwise |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Do you remember when Anderson ran? |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Please When Youi Begin To Acknowledge That YOU/I Have NO INFLUENCE Over The Major Parties |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-05-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
95. There is a difference in the parties |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
83. The real worrying thing is |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. 10% of the voting public? Depends on your definition of strong. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. A third party is viable, but not necessarily one that is more left |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I guess I'm so in the tank that, to me, when I read "more honest and more moral" ....... |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. That single-payer is not a viable option in a Congress controlled by Democrats |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Maybe because the "Democrats" in control |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Progressive is the word. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 02:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. As my name suggests, I keep hoping for a party that has and shows |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. no. not even close. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Nowhere close to close. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Both political parties will probably collapse in the next 8 years |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. I doubt it, Stinky, |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Things aren't bad enough yet for a populist movement |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
8. About a half a million dip shits voted for Nader last election |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Nader has been correct about many things for much of his public lifetime. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. In America, national 3rd parties are useless and ineffective |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
73. You may have missed this: |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. I am a proud dipshit. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. And you shouldn't, Blue! |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yep |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
10. I think it would be a mistake |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think it's a GREAT idea. |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. Funny how they can twist a Olympic committee rejecting a bid from the city of Chicago |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. We already have one... |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Exactly. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
18. Forming a third party now would guarantee a Pub win! |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You're arguing strategy, whereas I was asking about sentiment |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. And As Long As People Wave the Republican Boogeyman, Nothing Progressive Will EVER Happen In the US. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. Without some major changes to the structure of our government and election system, we will never |
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evenso (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
21. I think the sentiment is out there... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. Here's what I see in my crystal ball. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
24. I'm for strengthening our party first |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
25. A third party to the left of the Democratic Party would become the left's version of |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I don't know how you can spend time on this board and come to that conclusion. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I don't know how you can spend time on this board and NOT come to that conclusion |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. oh, I just read your sigline. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Do you have examples or are you venting? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Both sides have their batshit insane conspiracy theorists and wild eyed ranters |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Those aren't examples... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. They are examples of the extremes on both sides |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Being on the wrong board? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Maybe we should make a deal with the wing nuts. |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. A Conservative and Progressive party? |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Third Party? |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. The idea is sound in theory however... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I completely do not buy the "center-right" argument |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Those with power are center-right. That is, sadly, all that matters in the end. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
38. We should at least consider it and debate it. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
40. Actually we could just be the Democratic Party and the DLC could |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
41. National 3rd Parties are a joke. A Local/Regional 3rd party would not be a bad idea though |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. only among republicans. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. It's Strong In ME. But It Is Not Strong In the Rest of the Country. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
47. approximately 100 years ago |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. Maybe, this is the first time I can recall BOTH parties are calling for it! |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. The old choice--should I do the laundry tonight or start sewing a whole new outfit? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. How many nights of staring at a broken washing machine does it take |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. "Sometimes a stupid snappy answer is just that" |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Doesn't that depend on how thread-bare the clothes? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Absolutely. My point is, starting a 3rd party is takes a pretty high threshold |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
91. But somebody had to make those glasses in the first place |
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woofless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
52. I do not think the senitment is strong enough |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. Alas, a party "to the left" of Democrats |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
55. We already have a "left" party. The Greens. But, what the hell, the more the better. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. I have always thought that a truly viable third party would have to start by electing members to |
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flying rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think if the repubs fracture first |
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Krakowiak (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
60. Only with Instant Runoff Voting in place (nt) |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. Without cutting off our noses to spite our face.... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
62. Green party |
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mgcgulfcoast (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. i doubt this will happen |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
65. If there were a VIABLE third-party option to the left of the Democrats |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
67. Third Party? |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
70. Probably would only give the GOP victory in whatever elections the 3rd party |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
71. Would most likely result in Republican control of everything. LIke when we had Bushco n'/t |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. Technically Teddy Roosevelt was the most successful 3rd party candidate. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. John Fremont did okay in 1856. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Third Party is how we got Bush in the first place. Progressive Dem electing better. |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #75 |
94. Agree. I'd rather purge the conservatives out of the Democratic Party. nt |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. Sentiment? Yes. Possibility? Not until |
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Jim Lane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. More than 70 replies and no one mentions the key word: "Primaries" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
80. In theory yes, and not just on the left by the way |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. No, |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. Yes. Circumstance prevents it. So the alternative is to take |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-03-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
84. Are you not referring to a second party? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
85. Been there, done that |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
86. There ain't no critical mass. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
88. Oh sure there's the 'sentiment', but the game at that level seems played by point shavers... |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
89. The sentiment may stong |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
90. Excellent debate |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
92. The momentum is definitely building. |
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BillDU (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-04-09 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
93. Probably not |
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