Do more men have Type 2 diabetes than women - a must read article

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=health&category=other.diseases.ailments&conitem=4a935e4e40fae010VgnVCM20000012281eac____
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There's no question that Dr. Vernon is trouble -- but for whom? Not her patients, that's for certain. They just won't stay sick. People walk into her office afflicted with type-2 diabetes and, by every objective medical measurement, walk out cured. There's $51 million that says that isn't supposed to happen, not in a clinic in Kansas, and definitely not as a result of cleaning out the refrigerator.

"My first line of treatment is to have patients remove carbohydrates from their diets," explains Dr. Vernon, a petite, energetic mother of two who also serves as the president of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians. "This is often all it takes to reverse their symptoms, so that they no longer require medication."

That's it?

That's it -- a simple strategy, but one that's controversial. If Dr. Vernon and a growing cadre of researchers are correct about carbohydrates, we may be looking at an epic case of ignorance on the part of the medical community. That, however, pales next to the implications for the American Diabetes Association, namely that the very organization dedicated to conquering diabetes is rejecting what could be the closest thing we have to a cure.

But, he is dead, although not as a result of heart disease, as his detractors would like to have you think.

and it allowed Type I diabetics to live a little bit longer, but not by much.

What the zero carb diet does is cause Type II diabetics to lose weight rapidly, and often that's enough to normalize their blood sugar, at least for a while.

Type II diabetes is chronic and progressive and while diet and exercise can certainly control it, it's not actually cured.

I wouldn't reject a zero carbohydrate diet as a treatment, especially when there is significant weight loss to be accomplished. I sincerely doubt it's any kind of a cure, though.

and would be inherently unhealthy, given that would be restricting all vegetables, which have low carb counts.

Atkins is essentially what this KS doc is preaching.

and eliminating carbohydrates completely did prolong the lives of type I diabetics. They lived on meat and fat.

I'm relying on memory here, but that memory tells me the diet was tried back around the turn of the last century, when the diagnosis of diabetes meant a very quick and unpleasant death. Instead of a disease course measured in days or weeks, the diet prolonged it to months.

I mean neither insulin nor other medication cures it so why not recommend the low-carb diet if there is empirical evidence showing it is successful (and way cheaper).

that can reduce or eliminate the need for medication. That's always the preferable way to go and the method that reduces long term complications of Type II diabetes the best.

Unfortunately, a lot of people want to live the way they've always lived and will go for the medication, instead.

two weeks but my sugars were still really high so I was put on insulin right away. I tried a week of no carbs once and my sugars were elevated in the morning (dawn phenomenon).

One of my siblings just discovered she has Type 2 and dad had it late in life.

The immune system destroys the insulin producing cells in the pancreas. Your body needs insulin even if you don't eat any carbs.

I know. I've seen what no insulin while fasting can do to my boys.

My dad has been a diabetic for over 50 years and has followed a low carb diet for that time. He started taking insulin just recently.

When I was diagnosed the ADA recommended a low carb diet.

Hell that is what I follow.

And no, I do not intend to change that anytime soon.

I increased exercise, but I still eat a low carb\ low glycemic diet. I still pop the Metmorfin, but after losing 50 pounds I lost one of my meds.


So yes, I have no clue who turned over 100 years of recommendations... makes me wonder who paid for the studies, and yes I am that cynical.

Big pharma is laughing all the way to the bank

sp.

He's the former Phrama veep who is now opposed to them; he's a frequent guest on Maddow's show.

I'd love to know if Pharma goes on "PR" campaigns to make some diseases seem hopeless without drugs. There's a lot of evidence that diet and exercise can be used to replace drugs in some caes for some diseases. Yes, you hear this, but pills are so much easier and no one extolls the virtues of lifestyle except for "Left Wing Crazies".

Note: "Left Wing Crazies" is how those opposed to the better lifestyle message portray those who deliver it.

Insurance .... not pharma.

:::Must Keep Criminals Sorted Out:::

Cut the carbs, up the protein.

The treatment for cats and humans isn't that different - both are recommended to have glucose monitoring and regular insulin shots. But total remission of diabetes is not that uncommon in cats, if the recommendations are followed. Why not people?

Granted, cats are total obligate carnivores and humans are not. But still. Sounds like a possibility worth pursuing.

Didn't know about the cats.

http://www.catnutrition.org/catkins.php

Cats would eat protein in the wild.

Now do more men have Type2 Diabetes than women?
Where can I find that data.

I had to look all over the place for that data. They divided it up into every other possible categories.

The Health of the people of New South Wales-Report of the Chief Health Officer
In NSW in 2007, 7.8% of males and 6.5% of females aged 16 years and over reported having diabetes or high blood sugar. It is likely that there are also many people with diabetes in NSW who are not yet aware they have it.

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/publichealth/chorep/databooks/dia_databook.asp

Diabetes Data - NDSS 1997-1998 to 1999-2000 Canadian, Provincial, and Territorial Data Tables
Prevalence by sex
The figure below demonstrates that diabetes is more common among Canadian men aged 20 and older (5.4%) than among women (4.9%). An exception to the male preponderance occurs in the childbearing years (20-39), in which cases of gestational diabetes may be miscoded as type 1/type 2 diabetes.



I'll look some more for a larger study that covers more areas and times.

That's a major disparity between Canadian men and women (even for a short study).
Thanks a million :hi:

and there is a risk of ketoacidosis. And the fact that when I have no carbs I practically fell like I will pass out.
Low carbs yes, no carbs...hard to do.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/29/3/650.full

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/7/e81.full

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-research/summaries/liu-calcium-women.jsp


This is a puzzle with many interlocking pieces.

I eat steak for breakfast a lot, and so far it seems to be working well - I'm even slowly losing weight...I so have some days when I just hav4e to have some carbs, but I'm trying to get better with it.

mark

for years. He takes no drugs. We eat low carb and use foods with a low glycemic index. For example, recently we discovered rye flour has a low glycemic index so we make 100% rye bread (and pie!). We use chickpea flour in recipes for things like muffins. Stinky mentioned a great pasta in the cooking forum - Dreamfield's - that is great for a diabetic diet. After every meal - no exception - my husband walks for 20 minutes on a treadmill. He's a normal weight, but has pretty much always been a normal weight. I remember when he was in his early 20's and skinny as a rail he would get cravings for sugary things out of the blue and down a bag of cookies. We didn't realize at the time it was a sign of glucose intolerance.

Thanks