The Poor, Ill and Minorities are bout to splode?

There has been a war committed on these groups for thirty years now. Recently, I have joined that group. My misfortune not being skin color, but health. The recent surge, in that war, has seen a barely doilied oletime racism. Calling REAL AMERICANS, those provincial, pasty, fat, unthinking religious, ultra partisans that homeschool their dunce children. Is there ANY anger yet, from those citizens that mustered a march that dwarfed the teabaggers? Or those that fought for ADA along with Teddy?

Tell me there is a silent majority, that just hasn't reached the tipping point? Becasue I am ready to trade blows. The grass eater stigma attached to liberals, seems to have been internalized, to our detriment. Pascifism, has been shackled as passive. Newt, and others have labled us as apathetic, too gentile to suffer ugly politics. Is this true?

I believe there is a simmering cauldron of angst, that is ready to explode, and I also think the sooner the better, so it isn't particularly violent. Or disruptive. A stand, in the teabagger, birther, deather, Jebus freak, ultrapartisan faces, that was rambunctious, aggressive, and obviously driven to prevail, would see twice as many male enhancement products, for the Nascar dads flaggin freakon. We have the numbers to put the fear of death into the treasonous. All we need to do is get pissed. How hard is that?

I would like to see a movement, to take a month at least, that saw all manor of liberals, going towards DC. Put up, by those like thinking, that can't make the trip. Food and lodging, in liberal homes, with a mass of liberals, making their way to DC. It would have drama. Impact. Punch. We would likely suffer redneck opposition along the way. With videos being posted nightly. If the poor, ill and minorities, started moving on DC, with no fear, and a clenched fist, the civil war re-enacters, dixie worshipping, confederate flag flying freaks would PISS THEIR PANTS.

LET'S ROLL!

Not around here, they aren't.

Check the video section for some real treats. He isn't going anywhere for at least the next year or so. I don't think he'll be backing down. Check out the one on CNN where he smacks the entire Situation Room panel around like a cat with a mouse.

So far I haven't heard anything but good on him, except for the inevitable right-wing attacks.

That's the sad fact. Fear of the poor and the disenfranchised is rampant among those on the left who are comfortable, too. This is a fact. They may vote in liberal ways, but as far as taking in a stranger or truly understanding the plight of those on the downward skid......not so much.

I have a feeling it will fall on deaf ears.

...I can at least give you this: :hug:

I hope there's a break for you, friend.

I need a place to stay in a liberal area in CA. I need a good doctor.

I'm the most honest person you could meet, but I rather doubt anyone is going to help me move to a place where I can get health care.

I think you are there. So are many others. One comment I would make about the teabaggers, 912ers et al. is that some of us have more in common with them than we care to admit. To their disadvantage, they are ignorant of the historical origins of their anger. Add that to their inherit racism and mean spiritedness you have an ineffectual but
loud annoying group. They focus their anger at "liberals" because they can't bare facing the truth about the conservative movement they have supported since the Reagan era.

The powers that be rely on the splintering of the angry masses to accomplish their agenda. As long as the angry remained splintered we will keep tripping over each other
on the road to accomplishing some of the same goals.

Yesterday I saw Michael Moore's film. Several times during the screening I wondered how many of the fringe would identify with Moore's message. If what you suggest were to happen, the remarkable event would be instead of pissing in their pants they were to join in support, then it would be those running the plutocracy that would be
pissing in their pants.

The teabaggers are not our enemies. They are being manipulated and misled. The bosses use their fear and cynicism to divide us. We ought to be marching on Washington and Wall Street together. Would it get their attention if half a million armed citizens gathered in Greenwich Connecticut with a list of the names and addresses of the top Wall Street felons living there?

i left the theater thinking that the message of the film was overly simplified but after some thought i have come to the conclusion that moore might have put together a message that will ring true for many americans from all places on the political spectrum.
his use of the catholic hierarchy and of individuals who probably identify themselves, politically as right of center, to demonstrate the evil nature of capitalism was wonderful.
moore calls for americans to mobilize and do something for ourselves.
i hope that those of us in the lower 95% of the american population can see that our interests are the same and that we can begin to work together against the only real enemy most americans face, our own economic elites.

Honestly, can you tell a difference of the economic policies of Barack Obama, John McCain or George W. Bush.

The only difference I can see is slightly how the stimulus would have been allocated which is probably the last influence left in our party from the New Deal democrats. They included some infrastructure redevelopment and the rest was welfare benefits (the Johnson era democrats influence) and tax cuts (the Clinton era democrats).

Granted the McCain bill would have been mostly tax cuts followed by some help for states followed by a minimal amount of government investment.

This Healthcare bill that is coming will probably be more similar Medicare Part D more than it represents Medicare. You'd get a slightly more corporate friendly more expensive bill if the GOP tackled the issue at the end of the day.

promoted by the democrats and those promoted by republicans.
further demonstrating that it is us against them.

Republicans have none. That is the difference.

very little difference.

We did it once...We can do it again!

YES WE CAN!

It is what always happens. France had plenty of poor people for centuries. It wasn't till Louis went and started to tax the merchants and the middle class that was responsible for keeping France running to death to pay for the past 3 wars that there was a revolution.

The same thing in America. Once the middle class and educated become poor the rich are in fucking trouble.

The powers that be have a choice of brutal repression or compromise.

All the advances in Western Civilization have come from the Rich or those in power going a bit too far against the class that keeps them in power.

Revolutions are seldom started by the poor.

I'm inclined to agree with her.

I tend to agree with him.

She's been making dire predictions of imminent doom for years.

Bipartisan Elite lost our futures--and what we can do about it.)
by Jeff Faux (Pres.) Economic Policy Institute. EPI.org

Hasn't happened. It should, though.

As long as the rich can keep the middle class that they are threatened by the poor and that they are respected by the rich, the middle class will side with the rich. What ends up happening in these times of economic imbalance is that it becomes harder and harder to convince the middle class they have upward mobility.

Once that happens, you have your revolution.

Remember it wasn't until the British pissed off the American merchant class that the British had a revolution on their hands. British policy to the lower class of Americans was absolutely horrible from the time they settled to the time of the Revolution. It was only when they pissed off the people actually running things for them that they had a revolution. It wasn't until the French King pissed off his Middle Class till he started having problems.

Keep the people who run things happy, you stay in power. Piss off your lower and middle management class you will see your world fall apart.

one of the most important things we can do is dramatically as possible change the way we live and do business. I invite ideas from all of you on things I
can do that I may not already be doing.

I have moved my checking account, mortgage etc. to a credit union. I only do business with small, or independent shops and business people with the
exception of internet service.

I cultivated a large garden and am canning as much as possible for the next year. Have also joined a group developing a small neighborhood pea patch.
I support my local food bank. I provide childcare for a couple families that can't afford it when their regular caregivers are not available.

I show up for protests that support the principles I believe in. I did walk down the street with a message board once to support voter registration and met
monthly for a gathering against the war at our local library.

None of this is enough. I want to stop paying taxes until Obama institutes new regulations, hell any regulations. Framkly, I'm afraid of going to prison so
this ones on hold. Although I would have no problem spending time in jail for the right cause. I would like to group squat at any families foreclosure that will have me.

the middle-class in america = being a party member. doesn't matter which party because they are the same. you vote, you believe the system works.
you don't vote and you're a no-count, literally.
i remember a day when those in the middle-class in america remembered their working-class roots and sided politically with other workers when casting votes.
under reagan that coalition fell apart but it will return when those who thought the system was working can no longer lie to themselves about the current economic situation in america.
things will change but we can't expect that those who now hold the power will give it up easily.

There is your revolution.

You're 30 years old.

That taught this fresh outta high school the truth. The welfare queen, and all those that must wear her label started there.

The provincial, white, fat, unthinking, ultra partisan, dixie worshipping, confederate flag flying redneck freaks you condemn make up probably half of the poor. Do you expect them to bow down to you and accept your partisan BS about them and join in your fight?
They also make up a bunch of the ill you speak of. Add them to the vast majority who are satisfied with their current healthcare and your 'silent majority' is shown for the minority it truly is.
Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, PRESIDENT Obama is a member of a minority group. Do you think that now means nothing to other minorities simply because he hasn't given them all the govt 'freebies' YOU think people should get from govt?

You call the fringe right treasonous, they call you, the fringe left, treasonous. You get pissed because things don't go your way, they get pissed when things don't go their way. Meanwhile, the majority of Americans, who are moderates, wish you both would stop whining and just accept that we moderates don't want the leftist utopian dream or the rightie holy land you all think is best for the rest of us.

This pathetic whining is no different than Beck and Rush whining about EVERY damn thing President Obama does while believing the majority of Americans agree with them. The dude went the extra mile to get the freakin Olympics here, they criticize him for doing so and they expect all of us to see it thru the same partisan glasses they wear. Just as you do here.

President Obama said he would be a President for ALL of us, something we have not had in a LONG damn time, AND HE IS DOING A DAMN FINE JOB AT DOING SO. You, KO and Beck are doing nothing but making this great man's job harder.