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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:24 PM
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The Boston Globe: Sick of pink
Sick of pink
By Kris Frieswick


This month, like every October, a sea of pink ribbons washes over products from sneakers to snacks. While the effort raises research dollars, it leaves some breast cancer survivors feeling that companies are profiting from their pain.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2009/10/04/sick_of_pink/?page=full

When Kim Zielinski was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2007 at the age of 33, well-meaning friends inundated her with products bearing a little pink ribbon. Each product’s maker promised a cut of the sales price to a breast cancer charity, and these friends felt they were supporting the cause and, by association, Zielinski. A petite brunette who’s now 35, she was enormously grateful for the millions of dollars that these pink-ribbon products direct each year to charities that fund breast cancer research and education.

But it wasn’t long before she got a little sick of the pink. “I felt kind of hateful,” says the insurance company sales manager who lives in Charlestown. “I was like, ‘What makes you think I like pink now?’

“I think that the pink ribbon, as a symbol, tends to pretty up what is a pretty crappy disease. But a pink ribbon is easier to look at than the disease itself.”...

...Since she was diagnosed 2½ years ago, Anna Schleelein, a 26-year-old attorney in Newton, spends Octobers in a self-imposed pop-culture blackout. She tries to avoid TV, magazines, and, especially, shopping, to steer clear of all those pink-ribbon products. “October is just a reminder of my cancer,” Schleelein says. She is screened for recurrences with MRIs and mammograms every six months, and October is particularly difficult if she is awaiting the results of a test. “I want to buy my English muffins and not be reminded of it while I’m waiting for results to come in.”...
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:27 PM
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1. Fine. Leaves more room in the ad market for brown prostate cancer awareness ribbons.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:58 PM
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12. rofl if only, i would wear one of those with pride,,,
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:02 PM
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14. they're quite simple to make
take one length brown ribbon, tie in bow. But you should still pin it to your lapel or shirt pocket. If you pin it to your ass, people will just think you gambled and lost.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:28 PM
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2. Bizarre way of expressing their concern.
As I looked at the number of pink gloves, shoes, and hats that would be worn one time during the NFL games on Sunday, I wondered if the money would have been better spent simply making direct donations.

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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:37 PM
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6. Absolutely!
Like saving the yogurt tops. If they want to donate the money the donate the money don't expect me to save the nasty sticky yogurt tops like I need more crap in my house!
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:54 PM
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10. There is an interesting book on breast cancer corporate philanthropy...
Pink Ribbons, Inc.: Breast Cancer and the Politics of Philanthropy, by Samantha King.

The pink ribbon has come to symbolize efforts to find a cure for breast cancer. But it has also become a powerful symbol for corporate philanthropy, boosting the image of corporations, that promote products from yogurt to cars, slicing off a portion of proceeds to support breast cancer research. King, a women's health issues scholar, explores the phenomenal growth of Pink Ribbons Inc.; the annual massing for the Susan G. Komen Foundation's Race for the Cure 5K runs; and other high-profile events with huge corporate sponsorships. However admirable the effort to find a cure, King argues that it overwhelms efforts to learn how and why women get breast cancer and how it can be prevented. Prevention efforts could help more low-income women who lack the means to pay for treatment.


(From Amazon.com)
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:30 PM
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3. What a bunch of crybaby idiots!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:03 PM
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15. excuse me? WTF?
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 01:05 PM by dionysus
:puke:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:14 PM
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20. why are you excusing yourself? because you barfed. Then OK.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:40 PM
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23. you're fucked up. belittling cancer survivors so companies can make a buck with this shtick.
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 01:41 PM by dionysus
that's really at odds with your cries on health care threads.

makes one wonder.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:04 PM
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24. make sense will you please.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:06 PM
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25. please elaborate on why these women cancer survivors are "crybaby idiots!"
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 02:09 PM by dionysus
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:17 PM
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27. I was referring to one's complaining about the pink. seems we had
a misunderstanding. best to you
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:39 PM
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29. k thx.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:44 PM
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31. Why?
If you are fighting the fight or have won the fight you damn well have a right to have some say over what people want to identify you with.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:33 PM
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4. A friend of mine (whose husband has cancer) really resents ALL the focus going to ONE type of cancer
She feels (and I agree) that the Pink campaign siphons off donations that should be spread around to research on all types of cancer. I think the Pink campaign has been a bit too successful; it should start focusing on cancer in general.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:41 PM
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7. I see it as a bit of compensating for decades of ignoring breast cancer.
The pendulum has swung in favor of breast cancer, but I don't believe that it's come at the expense of other research.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:46 PM
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9. The success of the pink campaign also distracts from the fact that heart disease is the #1 killer
of women.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:05 PM
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16. ...and from the fact that lung cancer is the #1 cancer killer
of women.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:35 PM
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5. A WOMAN AFTER MY OWN HEART
My mastectomy will be a year ago October 27th and I have HATED pink ribbons with a passion. To add insult to injury they have taken my beloved October and turned it in to PINK RIBBON MONTH!!!!

These horrid baby pink weak looking flaccid stupid things make me want to SCREAM. It may have started out as a good idea, but now its just a marketing ploy. Last summer Yankee candle had a pink ribbon candle I wanted to go up to the sales person and ask what it smelled like Bettedine and bandages? Or if you had breast cancer, I think you should get all the pink shit for free. (Hey I would deal with it if it meant I got a free Kitchen-aid Mixer)

Right from the beginning, from the first abnormal mammogram all the way through preparation for surgery, every hospital gave me bags and things COVERED with pink ribbons like it was a club or something. I didn't want people looking at me and knowing what was going on? I didn't want people seeing a cancer patient walking around. AARGGH it makes me angry when I even think about it.

Anyway, a year later I am cancer free with hair a respectable length, and I am going to live to be 100. And I suggest we start a movement to turn October into HALLOWEEN AWARENESS MONTH!!!!!!

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:06 PM
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17. I hear you Robyn66 and I hope you're doing well.
I was luckier but I had a core needle biopsy that wasn't "benign enough" so I wound up having a surgical biopsy on October 22 (also benign) last year. Right from the odd mammogram on October 6 through the biopsy, everywhere I went there was something to make me think about breast cancer and worry about the limbo I was in at the time. Even the grocery store was selling cinnamon buns with pink icing.

I have to go in this week for this year's exam. I tried to schedule in Septempber just to avoid the pink nightmare, but the clinic said it was a better idea, for the sake of insurance payment, to wait a year and a day. This would not have been true if my employer had not switched plans. Blue Cross MN pays for 1 screening mammogram a calendar year (regardless of when you had your last one), but I've been switched to Cigna which will check with the clinic to make sure I waited a full year to do this again and I didn't want to wait until November because I want to get it over with and just in case I have another problem, I want to get as much of it taken care of as possible before the next benefit and new, higher deductible year starts.

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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:24 PM
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22. Good luck!
I think of us as warrior women! The Amazon women of myth would cut off one breast to be able to fire their arrows more accurately. I have always felt an Amazon would be a far more positive symbol for a woman who has battled this beast!
All the best to you!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:09 PM
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19. I was going to give you a heads up on this post. Good for the
Boston Globe. It had to be said.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:21 PM
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21. Yes it did!
this pink junk has gotten way out of hand!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:43 PM
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8. Welcome to Cancerland - Barbara Ehrenreich
http://bcaction.org/index.php?page=welcome-to-cancerland-2

BCAction is a group worth looking into, too.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:00 PM
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13. What a great article-thank you
It reminds me a lot of my experience. :)
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 12:56 PM
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11. It all comes down to % actually making it to the stated cause
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 12:59 PM by mule_train
I dont want to paint anyone who's actually doing good as part of this but there is definately a very profitable 'charity industry' out there in general (i mean beyone breast cancer)

people need to do a little background research on whoever they give to, to find out what percent actually makes it to the cause

some of the police/fireman's charities in particular who call you up ('you support the police, don't you?) are among the worst, with the 'charity' itself getting the big bulk of the money
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 01:07 PM
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18. It's way overdone
It's way overdone and commercialized without emphasis being put on prevention and fighting for access to screening for all women. Just all this pink marketing.

I think that the "Pink" campaign may have something to do with a lot of women even skipping out on getting a mammogram. As a woman I start feeling like I will get breast cancer and that there is noting I can do about it, only a matter of time before the mammogram can catch me and send me to hell.

I really prefer actual discussion about diseases to being over-run with pink doom marketing.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:08 PM
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26. fuck pink, i'm sick of C A N C E R
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:19 PM
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28. While these women maybe sick of pink...
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 02:19 PM by Javaman
my mom, my two sisters and my aunt all had breast cancer.

And because that gene, when in men, makes us candidates for colan and prostate cancer, which my dad and my uncle had, I'm also at risk.

We all can do with a little more pink in lives.

If they don't like it, fine, but many of us do and support it's meaning.

Don't forget to register for the "Race for the Cure" 5K in your city soon. The race is in November.

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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 02:40 PM
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30. Its the symbol not the cause I have a problem with
I certainly as a breast cancer survivor myself support breast cancer and any other cancer research. My mother in law also had breast cancer last year and my mother died of lung cancer at the age of 51.

If manufacturers want to sell products and donate money to breast cancer research, they shouldn't have to be baby pink, I would think that would make some people less likely to buy them just because they won't match their homes.

I have never made cancer an accepted part of my life. It was something I dealt with and moved on. I don't agree with wallowing in it.

Its just tough that EVERYONE has to have it in their face whether they like it or not. What is empowering to one is annoying to someone else.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 03:38 PM
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32. Thank goodness someone finally said this!!
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 03:43 PM by Kalyke
I HATE the color pink and HATE that someone just ASSUMED that anything connected to women has to be pink.

I realize hers is a problem of being reminded by seeing this color everywhere and the corporate over lording of this issue, but my problem is that I'm a grown woman and I think the color stinks - I hate the whole "blue for boys, pink for girls" sexist junta. I look awful in pink.

I do, however, look splendid in red or orange or green.

And - in response to a poster up thread: while I fully support any advancement in cancer research - breast or otherwise - I don't want any more pink in my life. I have a 2-year-old girl and it's hard finding clothes for her that don't look like a Barbie explosion - enough pink, already.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:25 PM
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33. AMEN MY SISTA!
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 08:25 PM by Robyn66
It amazes me how some act like you are defiling something holy when you say you don't like the pink ribbon thing. I have belonged to on line bc support groups and the vast majority of women I have spoken to there HATE the pink ribbon stuff because it makes them feel like they are being talked down to.

To me pink implies being a helpless little girl who needs to be rescued.

Let me tell you, from the day of the abnormal mammogram all the way through treatment I battled every day. Its a battle to get up in the morning, a battle to wait for the phone call for test results, a battle to drive hours to get to the best hospital, a battle to stay positive, a battle to face surgery and chemo. You have to be a partner in your care along with your doctors to get the best outcome. Its been almost a year since the mastectomy and I am still going through reconstruction so baby pink doesn't BEGIN to represent me, my battle and what I have overcome.

This whole ribbon thing has gotten silly anyway.

But I am right there with you. I am great in red purple green blue but not anemic pastels!
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