Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Health care facts: Women pay more for health insurance

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:44 AM
Original message
Health care facts: Women pay more for health insurance
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/76652.html

Health care facts: Women pay more for health insurance

By David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers



WASHINGTON -- Women of child-bearing age routinely pay more for health care because they're women. If they're pregnant, they can be legally denied coverage.

Women face other problems in today's insurance market: They tend to need more preventive care and therefore are subject to more co-pays and deductibles, and single heads of households are often women, meaning they're responsible for the family's health care bills.

Legislation now being considered by Congress to overhaul America's health care system would dramatically change the rules, and there's general agreement that this is a problem that needs fixing.

"This is very significant, particularly for women buying policies on their own," said Linda Blumberg, senior fellow and economist at the Urban Institute, a policy research group.

Bills moving through Congress would end the longstanding practice of basing rates on gender, which is allowed in most states. Legislation also would eliminate co-pays and deductibles for preventive care, require maternity coverage to be offered at reasonable rates and provide financial help for those who couldn't afford coverage.

snip//

Preventive care is particularly important to women because they tend to need it more, particularly at a younger age. It can involve mammograms, more regular checkups, Pap smears and other tests.

More women are in lower income brackets, making it hard for them to get coverage. In 2007, 45 percent of women ages 18 to 64 were uninsured or underinsured, compared with 39 percent of men, according to a study this year by the Commonwealth Fund, an independent New York City-based health care research group.

"Women are in double jeopardy," said Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill. "They earn less than men, so even if we were charged the same premiums they would pay a bigger percentage of their income, and women are usually charged more."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:53 AM
Response to Original message
1. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:59 AM
Response to Original message
2. why gender discrimination is allowed is the question!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Ask the same about teenage car insurance
I would guess the answer lies in an actuarial table. Given 10,000 women aged 30-35. The annual expense of the Ins. Co for healthcare will be X. And for 10,000 men 30-35 the annual expense will be Y. Divide 10,000 into X or Y and add 3% profit margin and you have the premium.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. For years, nobody's been sufficiently outraged
about how men get charged more for car or life insurance. Why shouldn't the insurance mentality be to find ways to treat us all like members of a group, rather than individuals?

Actuarial tables are a fine and dandy way to support discrimination. Ask any white cop, they'll tell you that statistically, people of color are more likely to be druggies, and that justifies extra suspicion for them.

What's wrong in one case is wrong in all cases.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Single people pay more for autp insurance than marrieds
and not teenagers but people in their 30's and 40'.

justify that if you can.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:44 AM
Response to Original message
5. Until age 45+, then men pay more
Women are more frequent users and bigger risks. At around age 50 men pay about 35-40% more for health insurance policies. That's why they go without more frequently than women
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Got a link for that?
Why do men pay more after age 50? Do they suddenly get concerned about their health as opposed to women?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Yes. Here's your link.
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 08:20 AM by Mimosa
This article is very comprehensive about the actuarial differences:

http://www.insurancenewsnet.org/html/HealthInsurance/2009/0422/More-often-charge-women-than-men-for-individual-health-insur.html


Younger women definitely pay more for individual health insurance policies. But when a man hits 50 and especially 55 he will certainly pay more. My DH and i have been self-employed most of our lives. Most of our friends are self-employed as well so we all compare notes. Too bad self-employed people can't join a huge group. We get ripped off big time. DH and I pay near 800 bucks a month for 2 Blue Cross Blue Shield policies. We are over 50. Both policies are $10,000 deductible 70/30.

Health insurance policies for self employed were far more affordable when we were younger.The coverage was better. Times have certainly changed for the worse.

Babylonsister, the actuarial risks for men rises in middleage. Males are more prone to heart attacks, strokes and cancer after age 50. As you probably know they generally do not live as long as females.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Thanks. So men aren't using more health care necessarily, but
it's getting more expensive as they get older and they find more maladies. I imagine it also gets more expensive for women as they get older, too, as we have our own health issues as we age.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. women's rates don't escalate to the degree that men's do...
but- they start out higher because of the whole baby thing. as they get older, like men- they may have higher risks of cancers, strokes, etc...but they also move past the child-bearing years- which kind of evens it out, from a risk/cost perspective.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. I would have guessed that after the pipes stop working, women-specific health issues....
become statistically more on a par with men's in terms of frequency (if not type) - increased healthcare need for both.

When the pipes are all working during the "exciting" years for women, then there's stuff happening that simply has no mirror for the boys.

So as it were, healthcare *becomes* an issue for boys (eventually), while it's *always* an issue for girls.

That's all pure guesspeculation, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. There needs to be a pool for the self employed
God, I hate the insurance industry!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Yes, Nikki, since we can't get single payer. *sad*
Nikki, you probably know that more and more people are 'permalancers' or independent contractors. That frees companies from paying FICA, SS, worker's comp, unemployment and healthcare. Plus they can more easily get away with discrimination.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. and the unemployed, and the people whose jobs don't have benefits...
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 10:04 PM by dysfunctional press
"God, I hate the insurance industry!"

the ones to hate is congress- they could make insurance companies obsolete or even illegal in very short order.

insurance companies exist for ONLY ONE reason- to make money. same as any other business.
and they'll do whatever they can to keep making that money. same as any other business.

"we the people" have the ultimate power- unfortunately that power is wielded by our elected and so-called "representatives". THEY'RE the REAL problem, and where the anger should truly be directed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
13. Not in every state
I knew Minnesota didn't allow gender to be used for setting health insurance rates but
Washington, Oregon, Montana, North Dakota, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine also outlaw it.

http://www.seiu.org/2009/09/women-vs-insurance-companies.php


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. unfortunately NC allows it and I pay $150 more per month than men
my same age in my same plan

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 04:28 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC