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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:44 AM Original message |
Last night on Rachel Maddow, Rick Berman claimed |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Is he serious? No, he is either out of touch, lying, bad at math, |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He's lying or horribly stretching the truth |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. No, he's serious. He just enjoys talking out of his ass. nt |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Agreed, he strikes me as the type that takes pride |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Even if it were true, the minimum wage earners would most likely |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Keep in mind, Berman is a PR flack |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. Are there any state minimum wages high enough to make his numbers work? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. His only caveat he used was "Family average" |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. WA min wage is $8.55; OR min is $8.40 and Vermont $8.06 |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Yeah, his math is just crap |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Hard to believe Rachel didn't challenge him on that mind-blowing number. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. He changed the subject so quickly |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. She was still putting on her shoes |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Well, his minimum wage claim |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. After he got done |
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Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. Minimum wage worker makes HOW MUCH? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. He thinks the middle class is people making |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
11. Slick Rick Is One Of Many... |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I agree, Rachel was fantastic |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. wasn't he part of the swift boat liars? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I can't find a direct tie between them |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. You're Thinking About Bob Perry |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
15. The median family income in the US is about 50K |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I think he knows what he's talking about |
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mulsh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. he is very good at moving the subject slightly, for instance |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. And Bush went to Yale and Harvard |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Oh he knows what he's talking about. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. Let's investigate him. Find out how many people he makes work 135 hrs/wk n/t. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Rachel has been investigating him pretty thoroughly |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
26. It's great to see that Berman is no longer a darling of DU. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Agreed, although I'll cut them some slack for ignorance. |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
27. K&R |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. Yup, everything he said was a wall of voodoo, his aspersions upon CREW's Melanie Sloan... |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. It was nice having Sloan on next |
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yesphan (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. How can this guy |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I'm guessing he thinks that money can buy a conscience. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. He comes straight out of Thank You For Smoking. |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. Possible explanation for Berman's min wage claim |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I figured it would be some kind of Gordian Knot he was threading |
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