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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:29 AM
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A call to action: BOYCOTT OKLAHOMA FOR SENDING WOMEN BACK INTO THE KITCHEN BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT.
New Oklahoma law will publicy post details of women’s abortions online.

On Nov. 1, a law in Oklahoma will go into effect that will collect personal details about every single abortion performed in the state and post them on a public website. Implementing the measure will “cost $281,285 the first year and $256,285 each subsequent year.” Here are the first eight questions that women will have to reveal:

1. Date of abortion
2. County in which abortion performed
3. Age of mother
4. Marital status of mother
(married, divorced, separated, widowed, or never married)
5. Race of mother
6. Years of education of mother
(specify highest year completed)
7. State or foreign country of residence of mother
8. Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother
Live Births
Miscarriages
Induced Abortions

Although the questionnaire does not ask for name, address, or “any information specifically identifying the patient,” as Feminists for Choice points out, these eight questions could easily be used to identify a woman in a small community. “They’re really just trying to frighten women out of having abortions,” Keri Parks, director of external affairs at Planned Parenthood of Central Oklahoma, said. The Center for Reproductive Rights is challenging the law, arguing that “it violates the Oklahoma Constitution because it ‘covers more than one subject’ — a challenge that previously worked to strike down an abortion ultrasound law.”

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I can only hope this is struck down in federal court and struck down soon.

This is a blatant violation of privacy.

Until it is struck down, we need a nationwide boycott of Oklahoma.

Sexism and male ownership of women is alive and well and written into state law in the state of Oklafuckinghoma.

:grr:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:37 AM
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1. What does Oklahoma produce that someone in California could boycott?
Serious question.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:39 AM
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4. Oklahomans
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:48 AM
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7. The last time the California unorganized militia was called up was in the 1930s to do just that
To assist the California Highway Patrol in manning the border to discourage immigration by refugees from the Dust Bowl.

Surely we can be a little more compassionate than that.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:52 AM
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8. Compassion isn't my strong point, as has been pointed out repeatedly.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:59 AM
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12. I have the same problem
It isn't always easy being hyper-rational.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #4
17. Pot meet kettle...
considering you live in Florida, I think you should probably avoid broad brushstrokes.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:59 AM
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29. California used to border checkpoints and they turned out-of-staters away
Many from Oklahoma.
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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:29 AM
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32. Stop using our natural gas and oil. Don't buy Bar-S hot dogs.
We have a whole website of things you can have fun boycotting: http://www.madeinoklahoma.net/
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #32
53. Thanks! I only eat Hebrew National HDs

:hi:
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:38 AM
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2. I would have thought that all this information would already be available.
Though not necessarily on a website.

It's bait. All it is is statistical information and any attempt to oppose it will be portrayed as a campaign against the truth by people who fear the truth. Attack it on cost only.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:13 AM
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22. Wow.
It's not bait--it's a back-door attempt to suppress access. If a woman lived in a small town she could easily be identified by neighbors, employers, pastors or pretty much anyone else who wanted to pry into her private medical history. I find it hard to believe that any poster on a progressive forum wouldn't get that.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:00 PM
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39. I'm not much of a follower. I make up my own mind about things as I see them.
And the all or nothing hysteria of abortion is what has us where we are with armed camps and people being shot. The Republicans are master manipulators and some here and elsewhere in our camp seem oblivious to the need to choose ones battles.

It is bait. Would you like to role play it?

Here:

You - "If a woman lived in a small town she could easily be identified by neighbors, employers, pastors....."

Them - "First off, we're not advocating publishing anyones name. Secondly, if there is nothing wrong with getting an abortion then why should someone be concerned about record keeping?"

See? Bait.

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. In that scenario men wouldn't mind posted their viagra or ED meds.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #39
50. That's the argument the wingnuts make, yes.
It's profoundly disingenuous. The counter-argument is as I've stated. You're not addressing that counter argument--you're just restating what you've already said. There's no bait--there's just a trap, and the trap is the proposal to publish women's private medical information in order to further suppress legal abortion. There is, most certainly, something wrong with the de facto outing of anyone who seeks confidential medical treatment--wouldn't you agree?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:07 AM
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54. have you actually read the THIRTY-SEVEN questions the woman is required to answer
are you familiar with HIPAA?

seriously, this isn't about statistics--this is about controlling women's lives, and, given the recent murder of Dr. Tiller, painting targets on women's backs.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:38 AM
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3. The legislature and state senate should be focussing on more pressing issues
and not violating people's privacy.
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left of center Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:47 AM
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5. sounds like BIG GOVERNMENT to me!!
Yet another example of how Republicans are for BIG GOVERNMENT when it comes to social issues, wanting control of the most intimate aspects of our lives- sex, procreation, marriage, and dying!!

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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #5
13. Damn straight. It's goverment intrusion smack dab into the womb.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:47 AM
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6. What the hell comes from Oklahoma that we can boycott?? n/t
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:58 AM
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11. A national tourism boycott can have a tremendous negative effect on a state's economy.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:01 AM
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15. OK, I'll cross the Myriad Botannical Gardens in OKC off my list
What else?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Do people actually tour to Oklahoma?
This is going to be an easy boycott.

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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #16
34. That's right, Oklahoma is a fugly cesspool...
Don't come here.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #16
49. Pot, Kettle. Kettle, Pot
Alabama ain't no great shakes either.......

Kudos for fighting the good fight down there, but please stop bashing your fellow red staters....


dg
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. No bashing. Just wondering about all the tour buses
We don't have them here either. Boycott Alabama all you want!

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
51. Strangely enough, yes
Oklahoma's got a lot of casinos, which are popular among Kansans and Texans.

Oh yeah...there's a Michelin plant in Oklahoma.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #11
18. That's easy. I never wanted to visit Oklahoma anyway. n/t
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #6
36. Please give reply #31 a look. My thanks to starroute for posting it.
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verdalaven Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:55 AM
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9. What about HIPAA laws?
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 08:56 AM by verdalaven
Doesn't this at least skirt those laws? As stated, a woman in a small community could be easily identified. In California recently a Hospital was fined four consecutive fines of $250,000 for releasing HIPAA information without a release from their patients. How can OK get away with this?

I am really tired of certain groups constantly trying to peek up my dress.

Edited to add the amount of the fines.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. That's exactly the basis of what many hope will lead to a federal court striking down this "law".
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:00 AM
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14. Thanks buddy
boycott South Carolina, boycott Oklahoma! You think that'll work? I can assure you it won't.

And thanks for painting with a broad brush and all. Some of us are actually organizing against this, but please, by all means, boycott us too.

Imbeciles, I swear.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #14
23. A boycott is a broad-brush weapon.
But they can be very effective: see South Africa.
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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
35. Obviously the best way to change hearts and minds is to be
a condescending, insensitive jerk reinforcing stereotypes about arrogant Yankees. That's what DU has taught me, so far.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #35
65. The regional elitism is disgusting...
funny thing, I live in Oklahoma now, but grew up in NJ and spent a long time in CA. I have a perspective on Democrats from around the country that most on here probably don't.

I should just stay away from these types of threads, because clearly there are no real Democrats in the south. We just suck and can't help it if we go to school here, if we have deep roots here, etc. :sarcasm: I feel like I'm in high school sometimes.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:09 AM
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19. I have a great economic stimulus plan: build a big bridge over OK
So travelers don't have to stop and drop off any coin at all. Hire from other places, and just bypass the whole place. :evilgrin:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:53 AM
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20. kick
nt
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:59 AM
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21. I'll cheer for all the opponents to the OK sports teams.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:16 AM
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24. As we speak right now, my wife is in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant
Really pregnant. Weird how sometimes things are literally true.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:19 AM
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25. As far as I can tell, I already do.
Not that a boycott is likely to have the desired effect--most likely it would just make Oklahoma more insular than it already is.
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:21 AM
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26. as a woman AND a Longhorn...i approve this message (nm)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:35 AM
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27. And what do they say is the point of this information? Why does
everyone need to know about miscarriages by county? There are already CDC records for this. Fortunately, since records are for the county in which abortions are performed, most women will be travelling out of small counties to more highly populated ones.

What a disgusting abuse of power and invasion of privacy.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:37 AM
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28. Is it possible for us to flood that website with bogus abortion claims so
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 10:40 AM by Ilsa
that it becomes meaningless? I wonder how easy it would be to hack and bring down the site?
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #28
41. +1
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 12:09 PM by BlancheSplanchnik
Best idea so far. :thumbsup:

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:59 AM
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30. OOO..OAK..LA..Homa..where the Woman's rights are flushed right down the Drain.
:)
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:26 AM
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31. There's information on Oklahoma industries at this state site
Oklahoma Department of Commerce: http://www.okcommerce.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid=383

Aerospace, windfarms, leading tire manufacturer, plastics, car rentals and call centers, and lots of agriculture and food processing.

They also tout their business-friendly climate in general.

I'll check some of these out in more detail and see what comes up.

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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. A Big Thank You for posting that! I hope people read that site.
:fistbump:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #31
58. 45 Oklahoma Businesses Make 3rd Annual Inc. 5,000 List Of Fastest Growing Private Companies
45 Oklahoma Businesses Make 3rd Annual Inc. 5,000 List Of Fastest Growing Private Companies

August 17, 2009 -- The third annual Inc. 5,000 includes 21 Oklahoma City companies, 10 from Tulsa, three from Norman, two each from Stillwater, Broken Arrow, Woodward and Edmond and one each from Enid, Lawton and Yukon.

The list includes businesses that are among the 5,000 fastest-growing private companies in the country.

Here are the companies that made the list according to the Journal Record:

* The 21 Oklahoma City companies on the Inc. list and their ranking included CSI, 91st; Charlesson, 264th; Enviro Clean Services, 870th; H&H Gun Range Shooting Sports Outlet, 1,121st; Twin B, 1,242nd; Paycom, 1,916th; Perimeter Technology, 2,050th; Longwave, 2,065th; Busey Group, 2,169th; Element Fusion, 2,341st; Duncan Industrial Solutions, 3,222nd; Mastro Services, 3,335th; Smart Lines, 3,485th; Robyn, 3,702nd; Docsoft, 3,856th; Partners Human Resources, 4,251st; Impressions Printing, 4,286th; Computer System Design, 4,686th; Express Employment Professionals, 4,772nd; Valir Health, 4,859th; and US Fleet Tracking, listed in the group of the 5,000 companies ranked as a group between 4,902nd and 5,000th.
* Tulsa's 10 companies on the Inc. list were Latshaw Drilling & Exploration, 118th; Select Engineering, 415th; Trinity Restoration, 1,194th; GDH Consulting, 2,441st; Challenger Services, 2,556th; Bridgelogix, 3,043rd; Oklahoma Forge, 3,428th; Mark Westby & Associates, 3,548th; Mobile Cardiac Imaging, 4,025th; Regal Car Sales and Credit, 4,557th; and Oracle Packaging, 4,819th.
* Other Oklahoma companies on the list included InterWorks, Stillwater, 933rd; Northwest Logistics, Woodward, 985th; Northwest Crane Service, Woodward, 1,081st; LiqueColor InkJet Group, Norman, 1,101st; Just Between Friends Franchise Systems, Broken Arrow, 1,102nd; Legacy Aviation Services, Yukon, 1,826th; Big Red Fasteners, Broken Arrow, 1,975th; Weather Decision Technologies, Norman, 2,219th; OnHold Worx, Edmond, 2,504th; Eagle Systems & Services, Lawton, 2,604th; Pelco Products, Edmond, 3,136th; Envirotech Engineering & Consulting, Enid, 3,862nd; and Miko Group, Norman, 3,893rd.

More:
http://www.okcommerce.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=3254&Itemid=34


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #31
63. Great, let's boycott renewable energy and food
They also tout their business-friendly climate in general.

The horror, the horror.
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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:35 AM
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37. Waiting for some more stereotypes about Oklahoma to be thrown around
Obviously the best way to change hearts and minds and help progressives in Oklahoma is to be condescending and self-righteous, and hurt an already impoverished population while pushing them further into the arms of a fear-mongering theocracy. Thanks, guys!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. You know what I heard?
I heard they'd rather get all self righteous and defensive rather than clean up their own shit.

That's what I've heard.
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Okie4Obama Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Absolutely correct.
There's no way they've donated time, money, and talent to try to send progressive Democrats to Congress like Andrew Rice nor do they fight an entrenched right-wing machine, supported by the local media, through grassroots groups at all! Damn lazy asses.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #37
48. Keep fighting the good fight!!
:toast:

The anti-red state bigots won't ever change their stripes. They'd rather sit around on their butts & post obnoxious & offensive bullshit about those of us who live in red states who actually have to FIGHT for progress. Don't ask them for any kind of support (financial, moral, boots on the ground) because they won't give it.

I should know, I'm from Texas. We get this shit every single day, & RARELY get any kind of support from the High Holy Blue Staters. But they'll jump on ANY opportunity to bash us.

dg





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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #37
57. Interesting. The human rights advocates in Honduras
are fully backing any and all boycotts of that country in order to fight a common enemy. Must be a cultural difference.

And, btw, the politicians we're dealing with don't have hearts and minds. They have lobbyists with checkbooks.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:38 AM
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38. There's no way. This is like firing a shotgun at HIPAA.
As things stand, revealing someone's medical dealings like this would be a serious breach of privacy, something HIPAA is specifically designed to protect against. It won't fly.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. No doubt, it violates HIPAA. I work in medical information industry.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:08 PM
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40. RACE? WTF! and Total Numer of Prior Pregnancies!!!! This is Unconstitutional at least,
a criminal invasion of privacy at worst.

It also goes against HIPAA law.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:26 PM
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43. Isn't this suppose to protect against something like that?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated.......
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:06 PM
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46. We should demand a website for registering every case of erectile dysfunction, prostate
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 01:07 PM by Ilsa
issues, and Viagra and other ED prescriptions.
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MidwestRick Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #46
64. That would be a good idea
as long as names of identies of the men aren't revealed...like those of the women aren't.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:10 AM
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55. I called the state board of tourism on friday and told them we were calling for a boycott of OK
after the "but you'll hurt the state" comment, I pointed out this wouldn't be necessary if they stopped electing idiots.

I have told my friends in OK that they have to come visit me, because, as of last thur night, hearing this on rachel's show, I will not spend one dime there for any reason,
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 02:14 AM
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56. this is the link to the bill and its 37 questions-- #15 is a pip
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #56
62. Mother, mother, mother. It's all the woman's fault. The questions are
or should be none of any one's damn business. All the questions are an invasion of privacy and all of them are designed to make women feel dirty and guilty and I think that's the point. Nothing they can do to really make abortion illegal but they can darned sure make women feel guilty for aborting an unwanted pregnancy.

The use of the term Unborn Child and Infant are so revealing of the real intention of these questions. Typical republican legislation steeped in bible thumping hypocrisy.

I feel sorry for any woman that lives in Okla. and has to deal with an unwanted pregnancy.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:44 AM
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59. Boycott Oklahoma? Gee, that will be hard.
:sarcasm:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:57 AM
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60. I missed the part about the yellow star on the sleeve...
These people belong in the god damned nut house.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:08 AM
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61. Deplorable to say the least... FUCK Oklahoma!!
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:29 PM
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66. The antiabortionists will stop at NOTHING to violate women's privacy rights
First, they constantly complain that the right to privacy is invented by "activist judges" who led Roe v. Wade and Lawrence v. Texas. Then they create this kind of BS law.
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