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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:25 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: On the government's owners

The most revealing political quote of the last year came, in my view, from the second-highest ranking Democratic Senator, Dick Durbin, who told a local radio station in April: "And the banks -- hard to believe in a time when we're facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created -- are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place." The best Congressional floor speech of the last year on the financial crisis was this extraordinarily piercing five-minute revelation from Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Ohio on the Wall Street bailout and how the Congress is subservient to their dictates. And the single most insightful article on the financial crisis was written by former IMF Chief Economist and current MIT Professor Simon Johnson in the May, 2009 issue of The Atlantic, when he argued that "the finance industry has effectively captured our government" and detailed how the U.S. has become very similar to failed emerging-market nations in both its political and economic culture.

All of that came together last night on Bill Moyers' Journal program, as Johnson and Kaptur together discussed the stranglehold which the financial industry exerts over the federal government and how that has produced a jobless recovery in which the only apparent beneficiaries are the bankers and other financial elites who caused the financial crisis in the first place. The discussion began with reference to this Associated Press article from last week, which examined Timothy Geithner's calenders, obtained through a FOIA request. Those documents show that Geithner spends an amazing amount of time on the telephone with the CEOs of Goldman Sachs, Citibank and JP Morgan: "Goldman, Citi and JPMorgan can get Geithner on the phone several times a day if necessary, giving them an unmatched opportunity to influence policy." Other than the President, virtually everyone else -- including leading members of Congress -- are forced to leave messages. Kaptur and Johnson begin by discussing what that signifies in terms of the ongoing financial crisis and how government works.

I'll excerpt a few representative passages, but the entire segment is very worth watching:

(excerpt from Capitalism: A Love Story): "MICHAEL MOORE: Do you think it's too harsh to call what has happened here a coup d'état? A financial coup d'état?

REP. MARCY KAPTUR: That's, no. Because I think that's what's happened. Um, a financial coup d'état?

MICHAEL MOORE: Yeah.

MARCY KAPTUR: I could agree with that. I could agree with that. Because the people here (pointing to the Capitol) really aren't in charge. Wall Street is in charge"


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/10/government/index.html
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:27 AM
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1. It is the international system of currency that determines...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSj1yNZdY8


You have meddled with the primal

forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I

won't have it, is that clear?! You

think you have merely stopped a

business deal -- that is not the

case! The Arabs have taken billions

of dollars out of this country, and

now they must put it back. It is

ebb and flow, tidal gravity, it is

ecological balance! You are an old

man who thinks in terms of nations

and peoples. There are no nations!

There are no peoples! There are no

Russians. There are no Arabs!

There are no third worlds! There is

no West! There is only one holistic

system of systems, one vast and

immane, interwoven, interacting,

multi-variate, multi-national

dominion of dollars! petro-dollars,

electro-dollars, multi-dollars!,

Reichmarks, rubles, rin, pounds and

shekels! It is the international

system of currency that determines

the totality of life on this planet!

That is the natural order of things

today! That is the atomic,

subatomic and galactic structure of

things today! And you have meddled

with the primal forces of nature,

and you will atone! Am I getting

through to you, Mr. Beale?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:34 AM
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2. You could actually shorten that to just "It's currency that is in charge"
Money is boss. They pretty much all take it and bow to it's wishes...
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:43 AM
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3. knr ...
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 09:55 AM
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4. brilliant
:applause:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:07 AM
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5. Kick.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:18 AM
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6. So, it's OK to quote "IMF Chief Economist" as a source for progressive analysis?
Not that I think he's wrong, just that I'm amazed at the ideological contortions people go through here sometimes. The IMF is the ultimate evil global bank -- until someone from the IMF says something you agree with.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:29 AM
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8. Did you read The Atlantic article?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:35 AM
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9. I read it.
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 10:36 AM by HamdenRice
As I said, he makes good points.

I'm just curious about why it's OK to quote the chief economist of the IMF.

Is it OK now to quote the chief economist of Goldman Sachs if he agrees with the "right line"?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:37 PM
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12. Yes. Both of them would have access to an inside view.
It is a worthwhile view to consider. I've do doubt that I would disagree with the IMF solutions to a failing state (selling off public assets... severe cutback of the social safety net) but it does not mean that I'd disagree with his analysis of what constitutes a failing state.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:27 AM
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7. K/R
" Wall Street is in charge" and will remain so.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 10:36 AM
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10. If Lord High Douchenozzle Greenwald supports banking reform
I might have to rethink my position.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 01:06 PM
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11. I'm going to read this later today.
:kick:
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