Don't forget tonight, History Channel, 9 p.m. EDT: JFK assasination as it happened.

If you are old enough to remember it (I am; 12 years old then), or if you are not, please watch it and understand why it's only rivaled by 9/11 in our memories.

I just set the DVR

this is grounds for dungeoning here on DU. Hope your thread lasts a while!

-90% Jimmy

about what happened -- in both instances.

Deception in the Assassination of JFK" by Thomas Lifton; "Plausible Denial" by Mark Lane; "Legacy of Secrecy" by Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann. Also an excellent read: "Mafia Kingfish; Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of JFK" by John Davis.

The information is there if you want to know. You will never hear it from the corporate media though.

There are so many alternative theories that make more sense than the "lone gunman" official scenario. I don't know how they expect people to believe that.

investigated the JFK and MLK assassinations and determined that there was a high likelihood that there was a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy.

This was despite the fact that the committee was hamstrung by finances being denied to them, witnesses being intimidated, and the refusal of the CIA and the FBI to declassify documents relevant to the assassinations 15 years after the fell deed was done to JFK.

So, yes, our government has said that there was a conspiracy, but you would never know it from the way the media tries to keep the Oswald-as-lone-assassin meme alive.

Of course, there was never a followup investigation to determine WHO the conspirators were. But once you read the books you'll be able to draw your own conclusions.

but with that in mind, why do you think the Kennedy family never acknowledged anything but the "lone gunman" theory?

statement, said he believed the official report. Could be they were threatened. I remember reading that after Robert Kennedy was shot, Jackie said she was frightened for her children and was leaving America because 'they're killing Kennedys'.

the author does not exist, and it was presumably based on investigations by Bobby Kennedy, and was intended to aid his run for president. We all know what happened to him.

It was one of the first "conspiracy" books and until only recently, was only available in Europe. From page 322:

"Oswald...was so psychologically involved in his intelligence work that at times he would confuse his assignments for the CIA and the FBI, and his "Marxist" and "anti-Marxist" activities."

try the education forum for the most rational (mostly) discussions of what did, or didn't, happen that day

here's a discussion of Blakey's role, which was to make people think the mob was behind it. nice try

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5176

and I consider that event one of the defining moments of my life, as far as determining my political mindset. Before the assassination, I didn't pay much attention to government or politics -- after that, I questioned everything.

rather than an "espose" of the "TRUTH" or anything like that (if anybody's wondering). At least that's the sense I got from the promo I saw last night. Did you get that too, Faygo?

I think this is one worth noting.

IOW, they'll be sanctifying the single bullet myth

you really swallow that garbage?

How does that translate into the single bullet myth?

you can do the rest, can't you?

another hint: there's this thing that starts with 'g'

Agreed, Gabi.

I'm not sure if you know what Gabi is talking about..Maybe you just like gratuitous snark.

Until he along with his snide comment, no one here even suggested a belief in the single "magic bullet" theory.

There was no snark in my comment except a satirical spin on what the advert is really saying.

It was an honest question.

Hint: Don't act like a jerk.

just as you inferred it in my response


"translates"? why did you choose that word, with the implication that my point is worthy merely of thinly veiled ridicule?


hint: acquire some more skin to protect you from similar responses to snottily constructed, ignorant questions. if you knew the first thing about JFK's murder, you'd know that the single bullet 'theory' is the fundament upon which the entire coverup is based

if you don't, which I don't believe is true (which translates into, "Under what rock have you been hiding?"), you wouldn't have used the confrontational word you did; you'd just have asked what I meant, without employing such a loaded query

There was NO intention of "snottiness" in my question -- Paranoid much?

"if you knew the first thing about JFK's murder, you'd know that the single bullet 'theory' is the fundament upon which the entire coverup is based"..

Well,no SHIT, Sherlock!...That's why I questioned why anything called "Three shots.." would be a "crock" -- your word...Can you fucking READ, or are you so paranoid you read negativity into everything?.

Christ, you're miserable..but I won't take it personally..I've seen how you treat others here.

and it's burned in my memory.

This will be the best and most important television ever.

resembling an unbiased look at this will be tempered with much skepticism. But I will go into it with an open mind.

I think I remember coming home from kindergarten and my mother was talking about it.

Even though I know what will happen deep down inside I wish it didn't.

their positions beside and to the rear of the Presidential limo--in direct violation of Secret Service procedure.

They did show the crowd of people running up the hill that became known as the Grassy Knoll after the shots were fired, something that has been covered up since the beginning. They were showing the police where the shots had come from and some of them actually ran to try to point out the gunmen. There was also a segment right before that that showed someone pointing toward the fence beside the memorial on the Grassy Knoll.

Very little on-site footage of the actual shooting even though there were numerous videos that were being taken at that moment. They were all confiscated by the Secret Service and FBI.

Holy shit, they just had an interview with the man with his family who said the shot that killed the President came from behind him and his family FROM ON THE HILL. He said he was standing over by the triple overpass which is on the opposite end of Elm Street from the School Book Depository and means that he was saying the shots came from the Grassy Knoll. That is absolutely incredible to hear that.

This is a stunning series of video segments. Very moving.

to the effect of "This case is -------"

I missed it.

Thanks

Referring to the fact that the evidence they had developed would clearly prove that Oswald was the lone gunman who shot both Kennedy and Officer Tippit. Earlier, they mentioned Oswald's ownership of the murder weapons, and the fact that his handwriting matched the handwriting on the gun purchase orders, and the handwriting he submitted to the Dallas police.

The only mention of shots coming from anywhere but the School Book Depository was by the man who was interviewed with his wife and children. Yet there were DOZENS of witnesses who were in Dealey Plaza who said the shots came from behind the fence atop the Grassy Knoll. They told the Secret Service, the FBI, and the Dallas Police what they saw and heard.

So, it's very interesting and revealing that the early news reports by the Dallas Police Chief Curry are singularly focused on Lee Oswald, the School Book Depository employee, as the killer, and the only one involved. There were numerous Dallas Police officers who said the shots came from behind the fence at the Grassy Knoll, and some who ran to the knoll with weapons drawn shortly after the shooting.

But, to me, the most chilling part of the footage was when the BBC announcer was saying how the whole world felt such a sense of relief and comfort when President Kennedy was elected and how sad they were when he was murdered.

Later research showed the National Academy of Science study was flawed and in fact there was a second gunman. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56560-2001Mar25?language=printer. I sure you know this so I'm not sure what your agenda is in putting out this misinformation. But from your user name I guess I know what it is.

Most Americans and almost all of the serious students of the assassination, who have read both sides of the tragic event, including the Warren Commission Report, know there was a conspiracy, with the majority pointing the finger at the CIA. Your login name tells me you have an agenda and misinformation and disinformation are your game. Good luck with that. I hope it pays well.

It means the American people have been sold a con job by a cottage conspiracy industry.

Some of us know what we are talking about and aren't so gullible as to believe the conspiracy garbage.

the Warren Commission Report.

are "on board" with Obama. Mighty powerful, that.

I was a vocal supporter of conspiracy theories until the light came on a few years ago. Your howling about a conspiracy does not make it so. If you study the situation as a whole, you'll realize that everything points toward Oswald acting alone, no amount of stamping your feet will change it. I recall how disappointed I was when it hit me that the conspiracy didn't happen. Oswald was just crazy enough to make it happen and he did.

is what you are dealing. The House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979 came to the conclusion that there was a probable conspiracy and recommended a new investigation. Which, to no surprise, never came. After Mark Lane's(Plausible Denial) trial defense against E. Howard Hunt, which Lane won, the jury also said there was enough evidence to open a new investigation into the death of JFK. But nothing happened. Our government doesn't want to deal with the facts because if the truth ever comes out, there will be all hell to pay for those involved and the agencies involved in the cover up. But, then again, you know that. That is why you are here.

The facts support Oswald being the lone assassin, just as the facts support Sirhan B. Sirhan being the sole assassin of RFK.

We have always known who killed JFK, and it's long past due to dump the conspiracy nonsense.

The real nonsense is the Warren Commission Report.

:tinfoilhat:

then come back and tell me you still believe in that cockamamie bullshit, I'll at least give you a pass for having tried to become informed.

If the "investigation" that took place in Dallas and revealed OVERNIGHT that Oswald killed the President and Tippett had been conducted in any other city in the country at any other time, the police department would have been laughed out of the nation. But because the Powers that Be wanted it to be ONE crazy man the order came down to squelch any real investigation, such as why so many witnesses said the shots came from the fence on the Grassy Knoll and some even said they saw the shooters and the weapons.

Crazy hallucinating Democrats probably.

They prove nothing, just keeping up the cottage conspiracy industry. This controversy is settled, get over it, and spend your time supporting Dems, and helping rid us of that boil on our collective ass called the Republican Party.

to those who spread propaganda and attack those who seek truth and justice.

subject is the theories behind the assassinations of jfk and oswald.

History has not supported his claim that there was a conspiracy. Everything points to Oswald, and that's just the way it is.