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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:54 AM Original message |
"Guns don't kill people...." |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, sir, matcom. |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. As cheesy as it sounds gun's don't kill people |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Agree... |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Yes, guns do kill people |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
61. I have an alarm system |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. So |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. You must always know exatly what your target is |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Why do you assume that I'm careless? |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
65. I am a law abiding citizen, why take mine? |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Cars do not equal guns |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You don't need a car to get someplace, but in the wrong |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. How about you leave your opinions of what others "need" to yourself |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. not true |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
49. as tragic that is |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Poor handling... how do you come to that conclusion? |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. sorry...but there was negligence if the gun accidentally discharged |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
66. I agree, always have the safety on and even keep it unloaded |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
114. Your right of course |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Thanks for your reasonable post. n/t |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's too early for popcorn |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I beg to differ |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
55. I bought mine for killing clay pigeons. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. This is no surprise to many.... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. FYI: After Columbine, when the loophole was first exposed... |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Can you elaborate on what these "loopholes" are? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Dep't of Treasury/Bureau of Alcohol: |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. K&R, matcom... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
7. And it takes a clearly mentally ill person to do what happened at VT |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
88. Thank God someone brought up the elephant in the room! |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. I agree. 110%. . You are going to take a beating from the gun loons. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Not all of us are "gun loons" |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Deal with it. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Ah, an unreasoned response to a reasoned arguement! How... predictable. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. There was nothing reasoned about your NRA propaganda. You flatter yourself. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Not an NRA member, not even American |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
102. if you aren't a gun loon, then no one was talking about you... |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm in total agreement with you!! |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks Matcom :) LOL forgot I added a nom :) |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. What the hell are you talking about, |
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southpaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Key words: "gun dealer" |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. If you sell guns for a profit, the ATF will be on your ass about it. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Nope -- it's perfectly legal in many states |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Wrong... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. You didn't read what I wrote -- I am right |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Of course they don't have to do background checks |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
113. Private sellers at gun shows... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. Stupidity kills people |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
14. Thank you. K & R. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. I like your argument. You are of course wrong, but I like your argument. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. They wouldn't care |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
46. You couldn't stop the planners, very little can be done to stop them. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Point |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. A hundred dollars a bullet is a bit steep and probably not necessary. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Identifying rounds is easy |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Excellent idea. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
97. Because ammunition can be made at home or in a balckmarket lab. nt |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
117. And that's cheap |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Here we go again... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. In theory |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
99. So your solution is? Fly off the handle? Criticize? Go negative? |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
96. A cute, but woefully ignorant solution. AMMO CAN BE MADE AT HOME! |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Really! What non-ignorant solution could you come up with to |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. The availibility of ammunition isn't a problem unless you're an authoritarian gun-banner. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. And your solution is as non-existent as I thought it would be. n/t |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. And your solution is as shallow and ignorant as I first told you. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. This is my last post on this subject. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Good. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. No, they don't |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Except if the guy yesterday had a knife, instead of a gun, |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. True enough, maybe |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. BTW, "pro-RKBA"? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Right to Keep and Bear Arms. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Cheers n/t |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
104. If the Jews in Poland had guns instead of knives... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
19. Thanks. K&R. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. K&R. If this guy had had a knife, or a baseball bat, somebody |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. And how do you stop him getting guns? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I don't know. I wish I did know. nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
90. For that matter, if he'd had a pair of revolvers, instead of big mag |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
25. Won't be mush longer until that right wing meme will be truthful |
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Ninja Jordan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
27. What gun law would have SPECIFICALLY prevented this tragedy? |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. don't manufacture semi-automatic weapons, if you're not the military. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I'm English and it hasn't worked |
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Democrat 4 Ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
76. How many gun related deaths did Britain have last year? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Define "gun crime" |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. And can someone answer a question about these guns that were used |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. See the thread on his name |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. VA has lax gun laws? Why? Because we're limited to one gun |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. that's only 12 a year and 120 in 10 years. In the scheme of things, |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. And, the scarier thing, IIRC, THAT bill was considered a form |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
42. OK. Let's just outlaw insanity while we're banning guns, too. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
48. Yep. That's like saying knives don't cut, or matches don't start fires. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
64. People kill people |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
69. I still want mine... |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. Damn straight. If he'd only had access to a baseball bat or a machete, he'd still |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
77. well said!!! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
78. Atomic bombs don't kill people... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
79. IMO, we need more "good guys" with guns, and fewer "bad guys" |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #79 |
86. .22 is too small |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
80. You see, people DO need guns! |
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madmunchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
81. Bombs don't kill people; just when they are set off |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
85. Isn't it actually the bullet that kills the person? |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
89. I have 17...9 of them I've never shot. They just sit in my safe |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. "Is it really that hard for people to believe that a person can own guns without intent to murder" |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
91. rock on, bro. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
92. Pistols, with a rare exception, are made and used to kill people |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I sport-shoot with pistols |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. They are to fire a bullet. I would fire that bullet in defense of my self or loved ones. nt |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
95. What about illegal back-alley stolen gun dealers? |
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ends_dont_justify (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
101. Guns don't kill people, opinions kill people |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
105. My RW gun-nut brother brags about owning more than a dozen guns. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
108. Matcom, you always provide the most common sense analysis |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
109. How very authoritarian and elitist of you. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
110. Yes, guns kill people |
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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
111. "I think the gun helps..." |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-17-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
112. Well, |
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