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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 05:59 PM
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Dear Sen. McCain,
Shut the fuck up you lost and you were on the wrong side as per Afghanistan and Iraq
and your were on the wrong side about Vietnam too.

President Obama is making a mistake of "epic proportions" if he doesn't do what
Gen. McCrystal tells him to do? Please. STFU.

Botany


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/opinion/11rich.html

Two Wrongs Make Another Fiasco


By FRANK RICH
Published: October 10, 2009
THOSE of us who love F. Scott Fitzgerald must acknowledge that he did get one big thing wrong. There are second acts in American lives. (Just ask Marion Barry, or William Shatner.) The real question is whether everyone deserves a second act. Perhaps the most surreal aspect of our great Afghanistan debate is the Beltway credence given to the ravings of the unrepentant blunderers who dug us into this hole in the first place.

Let’s be clear: Those who demanded that America divert its troops and treasure from Afghanistan to Iraq in 2002 and 2003 — when there was no Qaeda presence in Iraq — bear responsibility for the chaos in Afghanistan that ensued. Now they have the nerve to imperiously and tardily demand that America increase its 68,000-strong presence in Afghanistan to clean up their mess — even though the number of Qaeda insurgents there has dwindled to fewer than 100, according to the president’s national security adviser, Gen. James Jones.

But why let facts get in the way? Just as these hawks insisted that Iraq was “the central front in the war on terror” when the central front was Afghanistan, so they insist that Afghanistan is the central front now that it has migrated to Pakistan. When the day comes for them to anoint Pakistan as the central front, it will be proof positive that Al Qaeda has consolidated its hold on Somalia and Yemen.

To appreciate this crowd’s spotless record of failure, consider its noisiest standard-bearer, John McCain. He made every wrong judgment call that could be made after 9/11. It’s not just that he echoed the Bush administration’s constant innuendos that Iraq collaborated with Al Qaeda’s attack on America. Or that he hyped the faulty W.M.D. evidence to the hysterical extreme of fingering Iraq for the anthrax attacks in Washington. Or that he promised we would win the Iraq war “easily.” Or that he predicted that the Sunnis and the Shiites would “probably get along” in post-Saddam Iraq because there was “not a history of clashes” between them.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:01 PM
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1. It would be alot faster to name everything he has been right about.
Pretty quiet also.

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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:02 PM
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2. And where is Osama bin Laden, Sen. McCain?
You said you knew where he was and how to capture him during the campaign last year. If that was true, then whether or not you won, your honor and allegiance to this country demands that you share that information. If it was not true, then it is a damned good thing that someone who would claim such knowledge simply to get into office lost.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:15 PM
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3. Lt McCain was on the side of Lyndon Baines Johnson
during the Vietnam war. He was the one that orders hundereds of thousands of Americans over there. He was the one that was responsible for the murders of 36,000 Americans wounding of another 200,000 and up to 4 million Vietnamese killed, wounded or missing.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:20 PM
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4. they are wheeling him out right now. McCain is past tense
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 06:23 PM
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5. Senator Who? Wasn't she the one who ran for President on the GOP ticket against Obama?
The one with the big hair and glasses and the clothes from Neiman Marcus?

Oh wait...no that was the VP candidate...I get them confused, they're both such idiots. My bad.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:09 PM
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6. Boy do I agree. McCain STFU!!
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