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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:41 AM
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The "bloodless coup" has already happened in the USA


Multinational corporate interests and the wealthy few have bought the majority of our elected officials along with ownership of the message (propaganda) machines: Radio and TV.

my 2 cents

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:03 AM
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1. yes, but it only works as long as the People play along
if we'd stop playing their game, they'd have nothing.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:05 AM
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2. I don't think that qualifies as a bloodless coup.
Even it it's true..
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:05 AM
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3. IMO it was a bloody coup --- begun on November 22, 1963.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 08:07 AM by Zen Democrat
Followed by April 4, 1968.

It was easier to keep some people in line after that. We know that the media took a sleeping pill.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:33 AM
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4. A lot of 1935-46 US films had the bad guys
be US industrialist working as the 5th column for the nazis
and Japanese.

Black Dragons 1942

A cabal of American industrialists, all fifth-columnists intent on sabotaging the war effort, are methodically murdered by the malevolent Monsieur Colomb. It is only until detective Dick Martin is assigned to the case that everyone's true motives and identities are revealed.

Keeper of the Flame:

"Keeper of the Flame"(1942)was the second film starring the team of Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn.This whole thing is rather dark, with people rejecting to talk openly or trying to put away the truth. An interesting look on American susceptiveness towards totalitarian, if it is only dressed up as "good American".
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:46 AM
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5. That "mythical" cabal is actually still with us... n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:49 AM
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7. Sabateur, 1942
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:06 AM
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12. There actually was such a cabal...
foiled by General Smedley Butler (or was it Black Jack Pershing?) ... I don't recall exactly which decorate WWI general they tried to enlist...

It consisted of major industrialists wanting to essentially take over the US in a military coup. Don't recall if anyone was prosecuted or not...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:44 AM
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15. Standard Oil - now Exxon.... and General Motors
made it possible for Hitler to use the Blitzkrieg..... The CEO if GM was
a real fascist if you look at his history with GM.. Standard `oil`?
their famous for being assholes in history.

Hitler's Carmaker: The Inside Story of How General Motors Helped Mobilize the Third Reich - 5 link story online by Edwin Black....
its in most history links on the net


http://hnn.us/articles/37935.html

Edwin Black is the award-winning, New York Times and international investigative author of 65 bestselling editions in 14 languages in 61 countries

Black's eight award-winning bestselling books are
IBM and the Holocaust (Crown Publishing and others worldwide 2001),

The Transfer Agreement (Macmillan 1984 and Carroll-Graff 2001),



War Against the Weak (Four Walls Eight Windows and others worldwide September 2003),

Banking on Baghdad (John Wiley & Sons and others worldwide 2004),

Internal Combustion (St. Martin's Press and others worldwide 2006),

The Plan (Dialog Press 2008), Nazi Nexus (Dialog Press 2009),

and a novel, Format C:




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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:54 AM
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6. My goodness it's been anything but bloodless
glamorous assassinations aside.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:13 AM
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8. +1. The list of victims is long. They are all on the Left side of the political spectrum.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:20 AM
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9. It's been there since the 1950's
Eisenhower allowed huge lies to be told from the very start of his administration, like Guatemala had
a Communist government, ergo we had to invade. United Fruit had a nationalization problem which, to
them, meant that the country was Communist. It was just that easy - dial an invasion.

Time and the NYT had stories on the stupidity of the invasion going and both were spiked. The NYT
writer who was so smart went on to be one of the all time cheer leaders for the b.s. way of foreign
policy.

It's been here and it's entrenched and it's a damn efficient system (in that it can be run by
utter fools).

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:24 AM
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10. It happened right after VJ day
and has been continuing ever since. The Soviet Union gave the Powers that Be to do the one thing they were never allowed to do after a war was completed. Keep the standing army. These monsters have been wreaking havoc on the rest of the world for 60 years. It finally came to a point the only place left to rob was home.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:12 AM
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13. It happened before Pearl harbor...
FDR was looking for an entre into WWII so he committed acts of war against the Japanese (an embargo and the implementation of a secret military outfit - the flying tigers- who were actually US servicemen, fighting on behalf of the Chinese)... There is a good argument to be made that he knew the attk on Pearl Harbor was coming, but regardless, he sure did all he could to make something like it happen.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:16 AM
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14. Something happened to the attitude of the country after WWII
Before WWII fighting in a war overseas was a very unpopular proposal and the American people had to be tricked in someway into doing it. It was normally part of the platform of any candidate or political party to keep us out of war. After WWII war became some what an acceptable idea to the majority of the American populace.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 02:13 PM
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16. What happened is that we won...
... and unlike WWI, where either side could be creditably blamed, in WWII, we were most definitely the good guys and had been definitely attacked. We saw foreign intervention as a necessity to keep the foreign crazies from coming to our doorstep again. Not saying this was a legitimate perception, but that's what it was.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:29 AM
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11. Doesn't someone have to be out of power to stage a coup?
I'm not sure that was ever the case for wealthy special interests.
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