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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:52 AM
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Fascinating (Untold) Story of the US husband in Japanese jail for abducting own kids.
This is really fascinating, but not for the reasons you think. Bear with me on this thread while I show you HOW interesting it is.

PART 1

Step 1: Please reaqd the U.S. Media's Story:
US Dad Jailed in Japan in Custody Battle
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33086856/ns/today-parenting_and_family/

Christopher Savoie Follows Abducted Children to Japan, Gets Arrested (Photos)
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/29/crimesider/entry5351308.shtml

American jailed in Japan for trying to reclaim his children
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/29/japan.father.abduction/index.html

D.C. Protesters Demand: 'Free Christopher Savoie'
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11250386

Savoie Being 'Tortured' in Japan, Attorney Claims
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11301363

In my next post, I will tell you the "other side" of the story, but before I do, I want as many people as possible to read this, so please read and kick if you would.
I promise it is fascinating!
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:58 AM
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1. WTH, whats with the chimp, with Bonobo for a title?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:00 AM
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2. No Bonobo avatars sadly so I had to use a (common) Chimp.
I am somewhat interested in human evolution, primatology as a hobby, that's all.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:37 AM
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9. Here ya go
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:44 AM
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12. Got anything a little more...ummm, dignified? LOL.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:09 AM
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3. If you need a pic, I gotz. Just photoshop size to suit.
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 10:10 AM by Gman2
I am close personal friends with the whole troop at the San Diego zoo.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:23 AM
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4. Are you really? Do tell more!
Are you a keeper????

Check your mail.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:24 AM
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5. Dish. What's "the other side"
A non-custodial parent kidnapped the children to another country. Officials in that country don't respect our laws. When the custodial parent went to retrieve them, he was thrown into jail under round-the clock interrogation the result of which has been hospitalization for hypertension.

What more do we need to know?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:28 AM
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6. I read the articles linked, what's the other side?
I saw in the comments on one that he's a Japanese citizen, is that true?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:31 AM
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7. Yeah, that's part of it. And that is not easy to do.
He is a real piece of work, this guy.

C. Savoie:

- moves to Japan, meets his wife and gets citizenship status and the ability to stay and get a PhD status there. Through HER and through HER DAD being a guarantor for the school fees.
- CS is a Japanese citizen! He swore the oath that he would renounce any other citizenship. He shouldn't even be in the US, he's an illegal alien!!
- has two children with Noriko, who she cares for and who grow up in Japan with the Japanese family.
- things get rocky and Noriko asks for a divorce, which he refuses, probably knowing that he may not get custody of the children
- during that time he "hooks up" with his college lover Amy.
- he moves his business to TN, allegedly for profit reasons.
- he is with Amy, but telling his wife to come to the US to reconcile
- after 6 months, he has established residency in TN and the right to file for divorce there
- one day after Noriko's arrival, she is served divorce papers
- he does not divorce in Japan
- Amy divorces her husband around the same time
- Amy and Christopher move in together, Noriko alone in a relatively foreign country.
- Noriko is awarded 800,000 "shut up money" and expected to buy a house with the money and stay in TN
- Hostility grows between the two parties, especially since Amy also brings three small kids into the mix.
- Noriko runs off to Japan
- CS hires three other people to help him "re-abduct" his children.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:41 AM
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10. Ahh, well that IS a bit more than what they were saying
So he basically inticed her to move to the US, and then filed for divorce the next day? What a sleeze.

So would that make him guilty of bigamy in the US, that he's still married to Noriko in Japan and married that other woman in the US?

I noticed in the first article I read that he and Amy got married only a month after the divorce, so that did stick out to me, that he was probably cheating on his wife.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:43 AM
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11. You got it. So why is the media reporting it that way?
Everyone from CNN to MSNBC to local news. Everyone.

He may even be an illegal alien.

A traitor to the US?

How would his fellow Tennesseans feel?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:55 AM
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14. I wonder if at first they just fell for the "he must be American"
I mean he's white and lives in Tennesse.

Considering the children lived in Japan until a few days before the dad filed divorce in the US, I have no problem with the mother taking them back there. She was screwed here, no job, forced to depend on her ex-husband in a strange country.

And even then, I suppose she had a green card to get into the US, but once the divorce was final, wouldn't the green card expire in a couple of years?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:00 AM
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16. Yes, after the divorce, she would lose her green card.
But he had set her up with everything she "needed" and $800,000 in hush money. She wouldn't NEED to work presumably.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:08 PM
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17. And being in a foreign country with no family had to be difficult as well
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:21 PM
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18. Very hard, especially a state like that.
Soul-crushing is what it would be. Absolutely soul-crushing.

And then to watch her children lose their identity... insufferable.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:39 PM
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19. Well, I completely understand why she went back to Japan n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 04:15 PM
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20. You Missed a Piece
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 04:17 PM by NashVegas
You got:

one day after arriving in the US, Noriko was served with divorce papers.

You missed:

two days after arriving in the US, Noriko was ordered to surrender her passport and the childrens' passports.

Human Rights violation, anyone? NO WAY any US judge had the jurisdiction to do that to someone who wasn't breaking any laws.

Chris Savoie is a POS and his new wife is, too. EVERYONE in the Nashville area knows it, and yet all the TV reports on the matter portray them as caring saints.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:32 AM
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8. Well, he became a Japanese citizen for one thing.
- moves to Japan, meets his wife and gets citizenship status and the ability to stay and get a PhD status there. Through HER and through HER DAD being a guarantor for the school fees.
- CS is a Japanese citizen! He swore the oath that he would renounce any other citizenship. He shouldn't even be in the US, he's an illegal alien!!
- has two children with Noriko, who she cares for and who grow up in Japan with the Japanese family.
- things get rocky and Noriko asks for a divorce, which he refuses, probably knowing that he may not get custody of the children
- during that time he "hooks up" with his college lover Amy.
- he moves his business to TN, allegedly for profit reasons.
- he is with Amy, but telling his wife to come to the US to reconcile
- after 6 months, he has established residency in TN and the right to file for divorce there
- one day after Noriko's arrival, she is served divorce papers
- he does not divorce in Japan
- Amy divorces her husband around the same time
- Amy and Christopher move in together, Noriko alone in a relatively foreign country.
- Noriko is awarded 800,000 "shut up money" and expected to buy a house with the money and stay in TN
- Hostility grows between the two parties, especially since Amy also brings three small kids into the mix.
- Noriko runs off to Japan
- CS hires three other people to help him "re-abduct" his children.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:54 AM
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13. a) Cites. How do you know this?
b) He's still a US citizen and the custodial parent of the children who are being held in Japan.

He wants to be a parent to his children. I find that noble.

Without going into unnecessary childhood detail, this story strikes close to home.

Free Chris, and bring the kids home to the US where mom and dad can participate in their upbringing.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:58 AM
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15. The kids were born in Japan and lived there their whole lives.
H just moved to America after using up this woman.

His Japanese name is 佐保井久理須 (Kurisu Saboui).

The reason I know is that I read Japanese and have looked into it.
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