For all those who think that writing age discrimination into health care reform is just fine

eridani

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Wed Oct-14-09 07:23 AM
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For all those who think that writing age discrimination into health care reform is just fine

Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 07:24 AM by eridani

Fuck you very much. That is all.

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hlthe2b

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Wed Oct-14-09 07:25 AM
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1. Can you please explain to what you are referring?

please?

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Joe Bacon

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Wed Oct-14-09 07:28 AM
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2. Under MAXICARE�, people over 50 pay 5X as much!

Ol Max D. Whore makes those over 50 pay five times as much for the same care as those under 50.

Fuck You, Max!

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eridani

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Wed Oct-14-09 07:32 AM
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3. And big whoop! Under HELP and HR 3200 we only have to pay twice as much

Again, fuck you very much.

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geek tragedy

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Wed Oct-14-09 08:25 AM
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6. So, in addition to the massive debt that the older generation

has piled up, young people should also subsidize their health insurance by paying flated premiums?

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eridani

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Thu Oct-15-09 05:33 AM
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8. Yes. There should be one standard of payment and care for everyone

Just like the fire department. If you have a fire, your property tax does not triple, correct? You want extras? Fine, get them on your own dime like the affluent in other developed countries do.

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BR_Parkway

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Thu Oct-15-09 06:46 AM
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10. That's not a fair analogy - your fire insurance premium would be higher

based on the risk of insuring a 50 year old home with out-dated wiring versus one that was built 5 years ago.

While it'd be nice to see a flat payment for everyone, it certainly wouldn't be fair to start out of the gate that way - perhaps phasing it in over time.

What exactly are you defining as "extras" and how do specific countries pay for them? Are you suggesting that there be a flat standard and that any recommended tests or procedures that are typically done only on people above a certain age be considered 'extras'? That could easily cost more than some of the other proposals I've seen

I'm 45 btw, not some 20 yo bitching about having to pay for your healthcare while I'm healthy.

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eridani

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Thu Oct-15-09 06:52 AM
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11. What's not fair about it? We all pay for Medicare--just open it to everybody.

The point of sharing risk is to SHARE RISK, capeesh? In every age demographic, 5% of the population accounts for HALF of all health care costs in that demographic. Why not just gas them all and save the rest of us a lot of money? :sarcasm:

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Crunchy Frog

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Wed Oct-14-09 07:42 AM
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4. That's a hell of a lot of people for the Democratic party to piss off.

Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 07:43 AM by Crunchy Frog

That's most of the baby boomers either in or coming up on that age group (includes the late boomers born through '64).

If this passes, the Dems may never win another election.

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MiniMe

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Wed Oct-14-09 08:23 AM
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5. The bill now goes to Harry Reid's office for reconciliation

I seriously doubt that particular provision will be in the final bill

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Walk away

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Wed Oct-14-09 08:31 AM
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7. They need to let everyone over 50yrs to buy into Medicare...

at a reasonable rate with a supplement for the unemployed and working poor. As a group they need it the most desperately and they have also paid into the system the longest. It would be a great way to start and it could start right away since the system is already set up.

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Hannah Bell

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Thu Oct-15-09 05:36 AM
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9. no, this is what's going to replace medicare. aged = useless eaters

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