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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:58 PM
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Vatican to host Galileo exhibit
"A new exhibition marking the 400th anniversary of Galileo's work is set to open in the Vatican.

The Catholic Church once labelled Galileo, now regarded as modern astronomy's founding father, a heretic.
...
It was not until 1992 that Pope John Paul II declared that the Church's ruling was an error and that Catholics were not hostile to science.

Now a selection of Galileo's instruments - along with those of other key figures in astronomy - are being put on display in the Vatican."

bbc, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8308142.stm

so good. and when a friendly celebrating bbque for giordano bruno?
hehe - just kidding. good news.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:04 PM
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1. Good for them. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:05 PM
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2. Better late than never???
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:09 PM
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3. Cool! Reminds me of "Galileo" by the Indigo Girls.
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SutaUvaca Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:55 PM
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4. Ironic, eh?
With apologies to the Flying Circus, "No one expects the Vatican to honor Galileo!"
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:34 PM
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5. Giordano Bruno doesn't think that joke is funny.
98% of DUers don't know who he was or how he died.

Just like we have "anti-Nazi" Popes now, long after the pro-Nazi one, so too the Vatican likes science now. So too, after Neofeudalism has reversed child labor laws & stolen every last public dime worldwide, finally the Vatican (loot stashes secured) will come out against Wall Street.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:20 AM
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7. I know who he is and how he died (dial-up warning):


He's an inspiration.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:21 AM
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8. That is one bad-ass statue!
:thumbsup:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:36 AM
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11. You can tell the Vatican didn't pay for it, can't you?
Cheap fucking bastards.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:45 AM
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12. Thanks. Made my day.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:48 AM
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14. And you just made mine :)
You're very welcome, thanks for the opportunity to post about him.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:46 AM
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13. deleted double-post
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 01:01 AM by troubledamerican
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:35 AM
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15. As I recall, in that statue his back is to the Vatican.
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 01:38 AM by comrade snarky
I chose to believe that wasn't an accident.

There's also Galileo's finger in The Museum of the History of Science in Florence. I think it's his middle finger. It may be an accident but my wife and I did a little figuring and it's pointed at Rome. :evilgrin:





Of course I stood in front of it so I can say I've been flipped off by Galileo.

:Edited for typo
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:39 AM
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16.  "I can say I've been flipped off by Galileo"
:spray:
:rofl:

You're a bloody riot, take me with you next time!

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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:47 AM
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17. You have to take time to enjoy the little things
:toast:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:49 AM
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18. Indeed.
:toast:
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:49 AM
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20. oh you're wrong there. bruno was tremendously ironic. he would laugh i suppose. n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:57 PM
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6. Sarah Silverman immediately demands they sell Galileo
to the highest bidder.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:22 AM
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9. I'm glad.
It is good to make amends.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:35 AM
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10. "...Cardinal Angelo Sodano declared Bruno's death to be a "sad episode"."
From ScienceNOW:

Vatican Regrets Burning Cosmologist


Even as the flames licked his feet, the polymath Giordano Bruno refused to recant. Now, at least he's gotten an expression of remorse from the Catholic Church. On 17 February — the 400th anniversary of Bruno's auto-da-fé at the hands of the Inquisition in Rome — Cardinal Angelo Sodano declared the heretic's execution to be a "sad episode."


Bruno, a 16th century Dominican friar, was expelled from country after country for heretical views that ranged from dabbling in magic to denying the divinity of Christ. What endears him to modern scientists, though, is that Bruno embraced Copernicus's heliocentric model of the solar system and even went one step further: He declared that Earth was just one of an infinite number of worlds, each perhaps inhabited by creatures entirely foreign to us — and to the church. After a long imprisonment, Bruno was burned at the stake in 1600. It is unclear whether Bruno's cosmology played a role in his condemnation, but he has since become a symbol of a church crusade against the progress of science.


On the anniversary of Bruno's execution, Cardinal Sodano, the second-ranking cleric in the Catholic Church, called the incident an "atrocious death." However, he noted that the Inquisition had tried and condemned Bruno with then-common methods — including torture. Even though some aspects of those procedures are "a reason of deep regret for the church today," he said in a statement, people should not judge those who condemned Bruno: The inquisitors, Sodano maintains, "had the desire to serve freedom and promote the common good and did everything possible to save his life."

The statement has puzzled some experts. "I didn't know what to make of it," says Richard Blackwell, a philosophy professor at St. Louis University, who has studied the writings of Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, a (now sainted) member of the Inquisitions that condemned Bruno and Galileo Galilei 33 years later. The records of Bruno's Roman Inquisition were lost, Blackwell notes, so "it's awfully difficult to evaluate either way the justice of the trial."


— Charles Seife

http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Religious%20atrocities.files/ScienceNOW.htm



400 years after Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake this is the best the Vatican could do:

The inquisitors, Sodano maintains, "had the desire to serve freedom and promote the common good and did everything possible to save his life."

:mad:


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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:06 AM
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19. Shows you how relevant the church is.....I wonder if they stole his instruments
as they did with so much of their art.

mark
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