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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:40 PM
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Woman Claims Flu Shot Gave Her Neurological Disorder
A 25-year-old woman is suffering from a neurological movement disorder, which she says is the result of a bad reaction to a flu shot, MyFoxDC reported.

Desiree Jennings developed severe side effects from the flu shot she received seven weeks ago, according to the Loudon Times-Mirror.

Before she received the shot, Jennings said she was very healthy and training for a half-marathon. Jennings also was an ambassador for the Washington Redskins, a training program to become a cheerleader.

...

Jennings’ physical therapist, who works at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Maryland, said the woman has dystonia, a disorder where muscle contractions cause involuntary body jerks and repetitive movements.

"You realize your life is never going to come back the way it was," Jennings told the Times-Mirror. "My goal in life was to one day be a CEO. Now, I don’t know if I can ever return back to work."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565984,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r1:c0.141769:b28306190:z10

:wow:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:42 PM
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1. She's 25 and training to be a cheerleader?
And then she's going to be a CEO?

It's not that I'm not being sympathetic, but it's an odd story.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:45 PM
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2. Kooks abound, and are attracted to the story de jour.
Not to say that some people don't genuinely have bad reactions to vaccines or other medication, but it does tend to draw nutjobs.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:32 PM
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9. It does seem like she is a little delusional
Maybe her reaction to the vaccine is imagined?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:53 PM
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16. If so, she has plenty of company on DU.
Of course I'm just a "pharma giant shill", what do I know?

I'm not really giant, you know, I can still fit in the jeans I wore in high school.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:52 PM
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3. I knew this was coming
Check out my reply (#6) and the amazingly arrogant responses to it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6769021

Guess we can toss Desiree Jennings under the bus to whatever bizarre, Orwellian agenda is proceeding apace here... she'll have lots of company under there.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:19 PM
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6. Seeing as how the H1N1 vaccine was not available
until this week, I don't think it played a role in Desiree Jenning's condition - she was vaccinated 7 weeks ago.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:00 PM
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19. Didn't see it mentioned that it was an H1N1 vaccine
Seasonal flu shots have been out for a while. Article from KY on 9/2 noting flu shots already available"

http://www.wlky.com/health/20691408/detail.html
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:56 AM
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33. I was responding to a specific poster, who said
said "I knew this was coming" and linked to a post he had made in another thread about the H1N1 vaccine, in which he said the H1N1 vaccine was "dangerous and untested" and "rushed to the market."

The fact that this woman has tragically developed a rare condition following her vaccination against the seasonal flu proves nothing at all about the H1N1 vaccine. (It also doesn't necessarily prove anything about whether the cause of her condition was the seasonal flu vaccination - but that is a different issue.)

If you follow the thread, all I was said was that this case is not linked to the H1N1 vaccination because the H1N1 vaccination could not have been the one she received 7 weeks ago when it was not yet available (and therefore does not support the point he made in another thread, and linked to in his 'I told you so' comment in this thread.)
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:23 PM
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8. It was an amazingly uninformed comment. Why are you surprised at the amazingly arrogant answers?
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:52 PM
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4. until her entire medical history is laid bare, no one knows
she could have been taking medications that brought on the symptoms as well.

there are a lot of meds out there that have nasty side effects. In fact I just read about some gastric reflux med (Reglan) that causes Tardive Dyskinesia, which is not a desirable condition.

a good friend didn't know she had MS until she stressed herself out for a 5K and then the symptoms of MS set upon her like lightening. Symptom free today but she takes meds because of the MS.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:37 PM
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12. My wife has the exact same reaction to Phenergan.
Only the injectable though. Not the oral form.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:11 PM
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5. Given that it was seven weeks ago, it had to have been a regular seasonal flu shot.
And, while significant reactions are relatively rare, they are known to occur. I find the article negligent in its omission of what kind of vaccination she received--and of any other useful information, for that matter. In the absence of such information, many people are going to assume that the woman had a swine flu shot. And for Fox News to feed anxieties about this flu is consistent with what I've read about Beck and others attempting to scare their audiences into avoiding swine flu vaccinations. If you don't want the shot, don't have one, and I get it that some DUers have chosen not to be vaccinated. That's fine. But for the media to intentionally mislead and frighten people with sensational stories that are devoid of critical facts is reprehensible.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:23 PM
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7. Fox News? I'm surprised the headline wasn't "Obama Ruined My Life".
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:36 AM
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31. They also dabble in non-Obama fear-mongering. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:34 PM
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10. Are there any other links between dystonia and vaccines, besides this one case?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:36 PM
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11. To Fox News watchers: This is ALL TRUE!
Avoid the vaccine! It'll give you AIDS. And the shakes! And epuleppsee! Don't take the vaccine!!!!!!1!1!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:37 PM
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13. Adults, Children and Infants have "adverse" reactions to vaccinations.
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 11:18 PM by earth mom
That's what many here on DU try to cover up and deny. But it's the truth.

I am so damn sick of the disinfo and bullshit that is spewed on every thread like this.

But you know, all I think of when it happens is: Karma.

Because you just can't put that much negative, mean and nasty energy and words out there without it coming back to bite you in the ass.

So Karma, pharma giant shills, Karma.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:50 PM
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14. Where is all this hatred coming from? Did a vaccination eat your children?
Did a vaccine leave you at the altar?

Insult your mother?

Maybe karma is the reason you're so miserable and full of rage.

Think about it.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:06 PM
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21. hehehe nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:14 PM
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40. Big scary truth there, scottie.
:thumbsup:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:57 PM
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18. You have an odd definition of "often"
I know that adverse reactions can and do happen because my kid had one, and can't take some other shots because he's allergic to a major component. But adverse reactions beyond a little swelling at the injection site or a slight fever are quite uncommon with most regularly scheduled shots, and serious reactions are decidedly rare.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:20 PM
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24. Adverse is a better word than often. So I changed the word. Adverse = Harmful.
O8)
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:34 PM
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25. Serious reactions are incredibly rare. That would be anything requiring hospitalization.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:43 PM
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26. I suspect my point parted your hair when it flew by.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:12 PM
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23. I guess if soreness at the injection site is a reaction then you are correct.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:22 AM
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29. Karma isn't real. It's just woo-woo bullshit.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:49 AM
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32. That depends on what you mean by "karma"
"Karma" meaning that actions one takes produce effects? That's not woo woo, that's cause and effect.

"Karma" meaning these actions will reverberate in some future life (insert here whatever bits of theology from the Rig Veda one wishes to add)? That's an unprovable statement. One can take a position on it as a matter of faith, but not as a matter of fact.

"Karma" meaning that everything that happens to oneself is the consequence of something you and only you set in motion? That's utter nonsense and one whopper of an illustration of the Just World Fallacy.

Given that I believe in karma (version one), I intend to get myself vaccinated.
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janedum Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:53 PM
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15. I don't know anyone who's getting injected with that sh*t!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:54 PM
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17. .
Nah, too easy.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:08 PM
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39. Just don't do something dum.
:)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:04 PM
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20. And, precisely, what "sh*t" would that be?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:11 PM
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22. I got both shots within the last 4 days. I feel great.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:59 PM
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27. ya....how do we know you are telling the truth..you could be-----
A PAID SHILL FOR THE BIG DRUG COMPANIES WHO WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO KILL US WITH THE "FLU SHOT"!

but i could be wrong about your role in this flu shot consprisy.....:rofl:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:17 AM
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28. DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING DAVE SEZ!!1!
He used to be a paid shill, now he's in upper management (I know this because he keeps nixing my raises).

Just ask him about unions, he'll give himself away.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 09:54 AM
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36. Low blow. I am a union member in good standing, IAFF.
I also have been a Teamster and a member of the APWU.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 09:53 AM
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35. I given several hundred flu vaccines without a single adverse reaction.
If I'm supposed to be killing people, I'm doing a horrible job. :shrug:
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 09:59 AM
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37. yup me too, havent noticed anyhting wrong yet, guess i have to wait 7 weeks....
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:29 AM
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30. I have a SIL who tries to pull this scams like this too
She's actually hit pay dirt a couple of times for substantial awards.

The world is getting smaller though, and she's not as MILFy as she used to be, so her legal activity has slowed down.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:18 AM
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34. She had a seasonal flu shot. The orginal story explains more:
http://loudountimes.com/blogs/loudoun-lowdown/2009-10-13/loudoun-lowdown-nicholas-graham-flu-shot-desiree/
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 09:59 AM
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38. Thanks, but I'll still take my chances with the shot.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:18 PM
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41. Well, if she can't "return back to work," it's a pretty good bet that she won't be a CEO
since she didn't start as one.

Dimwittery or satire? Sometimes it's incredibly difficult to tekll the difference.
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la_chupa Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:51 PM
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42. post hoc ergo propter hoc
I'm having a bad psychological reaction to the number of people walking around my office coughing without bothering to cover their mouths.

don't make me bring my grandma in here to start busting chops:grr:
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