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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:12 AM
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Homeowners Stricken With Chinese Drywall Now Face New Threat Of Losing Insurance Policies
James and Maria Ivory's dreams of a relaxing retirement on Florida's Gulf Coast were put on hold when they discovered their new home had been built with Chinese drywall that emits sulfuric fumes and corrodes pipes. It got worse when they asked their insurer for help _ and not only was their claim denied, but they've been told their entire policy won't be renewed.

Thousands of homeowners nationwide who bought new houses constructed from the defective building materials are finding their hopes dashed, their lives in limbo. And experts warn that cases like the Ivorys', in which insurers drop policies or send notices of non-renewal based on the presence of the Chinese drywall, will become rampant as insurance companies process the hundreds of claims currently in the pipeline.

At least three insurers have already canceled or refused to renew policies after homeowners sought their help replacing the bad wallboard. Because mortgage companies require homeowners to insure their properties, they are then at risk of foreclosure, yet no law prevents the cancellations.

"This is like the small wave that's out on the horizon that's going to continue to grow and grow until it becomes a tsunami," said Florida attorney David Durkee, who represents hundreds of homeowners who are suing builders, suppliers and manufacturers over the drywall. "This is going to become critical mass very shortly."

During the height of the U.S. housing boom, with building materials in short supply, American construction companies imported millions of pounds of Chinese-made drywall because it was abundant and cheap. An Associated Press analysis of shipping records found that more than 500 million pounds of Chinese gypsum board was imported between 2004 and 2008 _ enough to have built tens of thousands of homes. They are heavily concentrated in the Southeast, especially Florida.

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AP: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/apArticle/id/D9BBJAV80/
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:14 AM
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1. The Chinese are trying to poison Americans in so many ways.
Remember dog food and baby formula?

And yet this country still imports so much Chinese shit... :banghead:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:17 AM
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2. I wonder if this has anything to do with a related report I read the other day
That foreclosed homes on Florida where the power has been shut off are essentially worthless because the drywall all became moldy once there was no air conditioning in the humid conditions.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:31 PM
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12. Any house will become moldy in the South with no A/C.
When we were buying here in the South, I looked at a 1920s home which was gorgeous, except the owner had not maintained the A/C. Mold was growing thickly on the pocket doors, in the closets, and growing
less thickly on other walls. If we leave the house for a few days, the A/C stays on.
No A/C AND that Chinese drywall is bound to be horrific.



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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:21 AM
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3. "[I]t was abundant and cheap"
That is the mantra by which we die.


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:21 AM
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4. Chinese have gotten their hands in every conceivable manufacturing
business in the US & the trade policies all encourage it. This case is just a little bit of blow back.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:40 AM
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5. Wouldn't the builder's insurance company be liable?
You'd think a construction company would carry liability insurance. I guess one problem with that is many of these builders are out of business now that the building boom has stopped.

This is really horrible for these people...they are truly caught in the middle. The insurance companies treat the Chinese drywall as a pre-existing condition and won't insure a home with it, but banks require the home to be insured.

Their insurers are declining to fill their claims, then canceling the policy or issuing notices that policies won't be renewed until the problem is fixed. The homeowners have little recourse since neither the Chinese manufacturers nor the Chinese government are likely to respond to any lawsuits or reimburse them for the defective drywall.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:47 AM
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7. It seem s fairly obvious to me
Or at least the building supply company. You could start a suit saying that they never verified the safety of their products.

They sue car dealerships for defective cars, right? Because even the dealership has a responsibility to ensure their products are safe, even if the car companies don't.
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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:47 AM
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8. Chinese courts do not allow lawsuits from foreigners
In fact, most countries are like that.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:04 PM
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9. Right, but I am wondering about the builder's liability insurance.
The builders would be American companies and should have liability insurance.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:33 PM
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13. No. It was imported and sold as a safe product. It met all US FDA, EPA
standards under the Republicons. You could try suing the Republicon party.

Oh, and Florida is a buyer beware state.
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jeffbr Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:43 AM
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6. How much did they save by going Chinese? $1,000?
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:25 PM
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10. Defects as a result of the delivery of Profit not covered...
Actually they should sue the builder. He is the one that chose the crap drywall from china. Probably even knew it was bad.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 12:30 PM
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11. The insurance industry
is front and center when it comes to stopping rules and regulations for chemical hazards. They are so short-sighted they believe that they will be free of liability when there are no restrictions. Now this - why are they allowed to do business in this country?!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:12 PM
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14. Possibly helpful link ... chinesedrywall.com
http://www.chinesedrywall.com/legal.html

Are Chinese Drywall Losses “Uninsured?”
Published on August 18, 2009 by Scott Wolfe Jr.
www.chinesedrywallblog.com

Late in July, “ClaimsJournal.com” published an online article titled: “Chinese Drywall: Builders and Subs
Face Huge Uninsured Losses.“ The article’s author takes its reader through a number of hot-button issues
related to the insurance coverage available to homeowners and builders for Chinese Drywall damages.

Calling the per house damages “astronomical,” the article warns that many builder and homeowner polices
may exclude damages based on the pollution exclusion or the “your work” exclusion. . .

From our experience in dealing with homeowner and builder claims, it seems the insurance industry is
positioning itself to deny coverage for contaminated drywall exposure. But more troubling than this is that
many homeowners and builders are taking this position as a matter-of-fact.

While there are certainly legal challenges to recover against insurance companies for these losses, the
insurance companies face legal challenges in excluding coverage. Homeowners and builders have two
things on their side: (a) The insurance company has the burden of proving the applicability of its exclusion;
and (b) Any ambiguities will be interpreted against the insurance company. Homeowners and Builders
should not consider the exclusion of coverage as a foregone conclusion, and should place their insurer on
notice of the claim. While litigation may result in coverage applying to this loss, without a timely claim and a
lawsuit to enforce the same, builders and homeowners will lose their rights.
What is Multi-District Litigation (“MDL”)?

MDL is a procedure to consolidate similar cases for the purpose of, among other things,
conserving resources and preventing inconsistent rulings in different courts. All such
cases are assigned to a judge in one federal district court. In June 2009, a panel of
federal judges ruled that lawsuits filed around the country against home builders,
suppliers and manufacturers of Chinese drywall would be transferred to the Eastern
District of Louisiana, where Judge Eldon Fallon will preside over discovery and pre-trial
hearings.

As one of his first tasks Judge Fallon appointed a steering committee consisting of
several of the plaintiffs' and defendants' lawyers. This committee is responsible for
arguing pretrial motions, deciding which legal theories to pursue and conducting common
discovery.

MDL has similarities with class actions, but they are not the same. Unlike a class action
lawsuit where the plaintiffs’ issues are litigated in one case and then the plaintiffs share in
the recovery, MDL cases typically address pre-trial matters, but then the cases (some of
which are individual cases and others are class actions) are remanded back to their
original courts of jurisdiction for trial.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 01:16 PM
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15. Did these folks get house inspections before closing?
I don't know much about this whole snafu, but I can't imagine purchasing a home without an inspection.
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