Bayh and Lieberman preparing to bolt on cloture vote

Neecy

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:28 PM
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Bayh and Lieberman preparing to bolt on cloture vote

We need to start preparing ourselves for triggers in the Senate bill. The caucus isn't going to hold.

"Not vote for cloture? I wouldn�t rule that possibility out � not at all," said Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who caucuses with the Democrats.

Evan Bayh was even more specific:

"It�s not fair to ask people to facilitate the enactment of policies with which we ultimately disagree," said moderate Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.). "So the closer we get to the end of the process, the more, for me, the process and policy will be one and the same."

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/13/a-lack-of-party-discipline/

Bayh is the key person here. He could bring Landrieu and Nelson with him and probably will.

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mikelgb

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:30 PM
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1. Bayhpartisanship at its best

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tblue

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:39 PM
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2. It's my party, Evan Bayh I don't want you. Bayh I don't want you. Bayh I don't want you

You would cry too if Bayh happened to you!

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Botany

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:40 PM
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3. How much to buy a Senator?

Industry Total Indivs PACs
Health Professionals $143,500 $126,500 $17,000
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $136,400 $50,800 $85,600
Insurance $135,400 $28,300 $107,100
Lobbyists $128,936 $112,436 $16,500

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00003762&type=I

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11 Bravo

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:23 PM
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12. Do you mean, "How much to 'Bayh' a Senator?"

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AllentownJake

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:42 PM
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4. Can Obama just lock Bayh in a room with Rahm

and tell Rahm, they aren't allowed to leave until Bayh learns to be a Democrat.

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Overseas

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:49 PM
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6. Wish he could.

But being a Democrat hasn't meant defending the peoples' interests against the corporations.

It has too often seemed to mean pretending to be bipartisan to get the cover needed to give in to corporate interests.

Otherwise, why would the President and his team have taken the most economical option, single payer, off the table before the debates even began?

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Vincardog

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:12 PM
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7. Someone needs to teach Rahm to be a democrat first

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AllentownJake

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:14 PM
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8. Good point

Those two just might end up planning a coup if left in the room together for too long.

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Overseas

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Thu Oct-15-09 01:45 PM
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5. Will they then be honored like Olympia Snowe for their "courage

and seriousness of purpose" for voting against their party?

If we are all just eversoimpressed by Senator Snowe, we must just be thrilled that our Democratic party has so many Blue Dogs that are "courageous" like she was.

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BurtWorm

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:17 PM
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9. Those fucking little whiny babies!

Weak as water.

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spanone

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:19 PM
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10. bayh is a republican...i wouldn't give him a penny. i would work against him.

a true republican would be a better bet for democrats

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KamaAina

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Thu Oct-15-09 02:21 PM
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11. When do we get to tell him "Bayh-Bayh"?

:grr:

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