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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:42 PM
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Potus Townhall Live thread gets 80 UNREC's??? What does this tell us about unrectrolls?
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:43 PM
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1. I'll say it again.
"Rec/Unrec" needs to become a paid-member-only feature.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:44 PM
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4. It's not? Good grief, that explains a lot.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:45 PM
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10. Good point.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:35 PM
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39.  I like that idea!
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 04:35 PM by kentuck
I hope Skinner and Admins consider it. They might show that they are not totally intransigent to good ideas and do listen to everyone.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:43 PM
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2. How can you tell how many unrecs a thread has received?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:44 PM
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6. that's my question as well...unless it was 80 one moment and 0 the next...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:45 PM
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9. go to Top Tens of the Greatest. Total recs & unrecs --
she's got like 10 recs, which means like 80 unrecs. This one has 40-some unrecs:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6782239
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:51 PM
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14. I'm new to this but I don't think she has many unrecs:
according to the formula: points = recs + unrecs + replies

Her current point total is 106. She has a net of +22 with 84 replies. To me, that works out to 0 unrecs.

:shrug:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:59 PM
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22. Total of recs, unrecs and replies...
Now apologize to all the nice people you accused of being unrectrolls.

Sid
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:57 PM
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45. I might be a little slow but I don't get what you're saying...
My computer screen doesn't say the recs and unrecs. It just says the # of replies, # of views. If it's in positive territory, then it says the difference between the number of recs and unrecs (although you still don't know the number of recs and the number of unrecs--a +60 could be 80 recs and 20 unrecs or 60 and 0 or many other possibilities).
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 11:08 PM
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50. You're not slow, you're absolutely correct...
what the OP was talking about was the new Top Ten groupings, which can be accessed from the Greatest Page.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads&topten=1

The OP was speculating on the number of recs / unrecs based on the New and Hot section. That section ranks posts on a point system, where total points = # recs + # unrecs + # replies. Unfortunately, the OP forgot to include the #replies in their calculation, and thus erroneously figured that a post with 100 points and a +20 rating must have 80 unrecs.

Some threads appear in the On The Fence section of the Top Tens page, and you actually see the percentage of recs vs unrecs. With that info you can figure out the actual number of recs and unrecs for that thread, if you also know the number of points it has. I did the calculation for this thread earlier in the evening, in post#32. But at that time, we had the following information:

#points (recs + unrecs + replies)
# replies
%unrec vs %rec

Generally, though, you're right. We can't determine how many recs and how many unrecs a post has.

Sid
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:44 PM
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3. C'mon... give the haters some credit here. (nt)
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:44 PM
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5. unrecc'd for talking about unrecs. First rule of unrec club is never talk about unrecs.
:rofl:
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:45 PM
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8. Rec'd back to counter your unrec.
So nyah.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:52 PM
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16. -1 NYAH!
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:45 PM
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7. How can you tell?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:47 PM
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11. see my post #9, upthread.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:49 PM
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12. 35 unrecs on an antilimbaugh thread, vs. 9 recs. Hmmmm.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:50 PM
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13. WTF are you talking about....
recs + unrecs + replies = points

That thread has 21 recs and 84 replies, total 105

So it's got 1 unrec.


Holy shit, people. You take unrecs way too fucking seriously.

Sid
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:52 PM
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15. What... you can't trade them for prizes later?
I was lied to!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:53 PM
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17. Actually, you can -- at the DU annual carnival.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:54 PM
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18. No it didn't receive 80 unrecs.
recs + unrecs + replys = total points
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:55 PM
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19. Well, it certainly tells us alot about people who get their sense of self from 'Rec's
... on a freakin' internet chat board ... :eyes:

GROW THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE!!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:58 PM
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20. Have you figured out how wrong you are yet?...nt
Sid
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:34 PM
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36. uh, yeah. opps. sorry everybody.
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BluinTX Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:31 PM
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37. Thanks
It's nice to see someone just admit they were wrong rather than become more and more defensive and make a fool of themselves. It takes maturity and a bit of courage to do so. I wish more here would do the same.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:56 PM
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42. wow, thanks! LOL i spelled "oops" wrong, too!
Welcome to DU from another texan!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 02:59 PM
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21. Eh, I thought it was the "purists" who were supposed to whining about unrecs..
Not the "moderate centrists".. :shrug:

The more I hang around here the more confused I become. :crazy:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:00 PM
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23. It tells us you know fuck-all about the Recs system. nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:01 PM
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24. +1...nt
Sid
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:03 PM
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25. Is this part of the conspiracy to interupt the President's townhall
with a Balloon flying around Colorado.

:rofl:

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:07 PM
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26. #?
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 03:09 PM by omega minimo

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:09 PM
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28. Or it could be
that somebody can't do basic addition and subtraction. Read the responses above to see how wrong the OP was.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:11 PM
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29. You're confirming your "prediction" with erroneous information...
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 03:15 PM by SidDithers
the calculations in the OP are a pile of shite.

Sid

Edit: nice edit on post #26. Not surprised you wanted to delete that embarrassing admission.

Sid
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:17 PM
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31. You may be correct.
I edited after taking the OP's word for the #.

I also calculate that there are DUers like me who have lost interest and don't Rec + as much as before. Which means if more negatives are invested in UnReccing and fewer positives are interested in participating in this sort of contest, the outcome will reflect that. Perhaps the prediction that it's a petty game is proving true.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:23 PM
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33. Just because you say it's "proving true"...
doesn't mean it is. The post referenced in the OP is now at +37 recs. Seems to me that good posts will still get recc'd, and shitty threads (like this one) will get skewered.

Sid
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:29 PM
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34. I said "Perhaps"
The possibility I'm suggesting may be considered, if not factored in. No one knows the impact unless folks speak up similarly and a few have.

It's something for the folks complaining about UnRecs to consider.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:09 PM
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27. How many unrecs does this thread have?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:18 PM
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32. 60 points with 30 replies...
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 03:18 PM by SidDithers
means it's got 30 recs / unrecs.

From On The Fence, we know it's 47% rec, 53% unrec, so:

16 unrecs
14 recs

Sid

Edit: which is fucking unbelievable, considering how spectacularly wrong the OP was.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:11 PM
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30. k&r...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 03:33 PM
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35. That thread now has 136 points...
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 03:37 PM by SidDithers
with a +39 and 91 replies. That means the recs, unrecs have gone:

42 recs
3 unrecs.

Sid

Edit: removed smarminess.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:32 PM
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38. I Know This Isn't Your Point, But
˙How do you get the number of unrecs?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:42 PM
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40. At +44 rec now.
They must have heard you and are now launching false-flag, longterm damage control measures. I cannot believe the war over the front page. Ruthless.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:44 PM
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41. Uh...
....if there are more wingnuts here than progressives, I'd put that in the win column.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 04:59 PM
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43. Finally, someone else sees the absurdity of the unrec'ers being allowed free reign.
:)
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:03 PM
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44. You obviously didn't read the entire thread...
or you would have seen that the OP was massively incorrect.

Sid
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:59 PM
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46. Possibly another person who doesn't bother
playing the counting games. :hi:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 10:39 PM
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47. If they didn't
they'd not have read the post. ;)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 12:37 AM
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52. unless they were interested in the POTUS (lack of) support aspect.......
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 10:57 PM
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48. Why can't you accept that YOUR metric for rating is not everyone's?!
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 10:59 PM by TexasObserver
This is a really simple concept that seems to escape those who hyperventilate constantly about unrecommends. You get one vote per thread. Use it. That vote is yours. My vote is mine. I don't have to agree with you about what makes a thread worthy of recommending or unrecommending.

I don't think I have a right to attack you for recommending some thread that has nothing to distinguish it, but you think you're just fine attacking those who unrecommend the crap you like.

Accept it. My vote is not yours. I don't use the same low standards you employ for judging threads. It's simple. Not every thread gets recommended. Most don't. Some aren't worth the time it took to click on the OP, and they get unrecommended. Threads about Freepers? Unrecommended. Threads whining about Unrecommend? Unrecommended.

You vote your vote, and I'll vote mine, and that makes for a difference of opinion. Stop thinking your problem is a bunch rightwing trolls. The problem is you're deluding yourself into thinking unrecommends are caused by something other than DUers rejecting weak ass threads.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 10:59 PM
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49. Well said...nt
Sid
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 12:40 AM
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53. How do you know how many UnRecs are tallied?
I must have missed that class.
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