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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 05:49 PM
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Obama's first visit to New Orleans was TODAY - on the way to a fundraiser
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 06:21 PM by Leopolds Ghost
On Edit: I have removed "I am Disturbed to learn" since the PC Dilletantes on this thread, who don't remember reading my or other people's extensive posts on this subject for the three years before the election, or weren't around / old enough to remember the general indifference toward New Orleans, don't seem to believe me.

I LITERALLY HAD NO IDEA THAT OBAMA HASN'T BEEN TO GROUND ZERO IN NEW ORLEANS BEFORE TODAY. WHO COULD HAVE IMAGINED SUCH A THING?! What person said it wasn't enough of a national priority to warrant an itinerary?

How fucking depressing. As if I needed another reason to be depressed about
which direction the new Administration is headed.

OH WAIT! Bobby Jindal and Louisiana Republicans praised Obama's efforts to
ship the money their way and his commitment to ensure the demolition of
"inadequate" public schools and public housing, and defended him against
inner-city critics.

Obama Defends Himself against New Orleans Critics

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1151ap_us_obama_new_orleans.html?source=mypi

(Another poorly written "fake online Seattle P-I" article brought to you by outsourced online journalism thanks to supposedly "progressive" people who don't support print journalism anymore -- thanks Internet, for giving us recycled cable news as an alternative to the formerly liberal Washington Post!)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 05:54 PM
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1. Here. This is for you.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 05:59 PM
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2. Well of course. Stop in LA for a presidential thingy and the fundraiser
portion of the junket can be included, and the whole expense comes out of a different fund. Taxpayer fund rather than party (as in political) fund.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:01 PM
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3. Katrina happened on Bush's watch. Why must you blame Obama?
Seriously, you have to have a chip on shoulder.

Every goddamn body can claim somehow that he's not doing enough.

Makes me sick.

Get over it.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:13 PM
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12. I don't have a "chip" on my shoulder, I've been working in the goddamn field for 3 years.
Trying to UN-DO the effects of the conservative Democrats in Washington and New Orleans.

What have you done?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:24 PM
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22. Working in the Field. Thus your narrow perspective. FYI it's a big motherfucking country.
And there is plenty else for the president to do beyond making a personal visit to N.O.

Have a donut, you deserve it.

:donut:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:28 PM
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25. Not a personal visit, a business trip. Was this his first business trip to NOLA?
When was the first business trip the Admin made to NYC after the Election to deal with Wall Street, rebuilding Lower Manhattan, etc?

It's a big fucking country and if half of NYC got submerged you would have a similar "narrow perspective".
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 10:59 PM
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36. The president's staff, not the president, make important trips. 35 so far to New Orleans.
If the president had gone to "check things out" it would be called a gratuitous photo op.

He's taking care of business...That is what counts, not personal appearances.

Obama Defends Himself Against New Orleans Critics

...Obama claimed progress since he entered the White House in January. He cited reconstruction projects that have moved forward after having been stalled by disagreements over whether the state or federal government would foot the bill. FEMA is working "around the clock to clear up red tape and to eliminate bureaucracy on backlogs that go back years," he said.

According to FEMA, 76 of the 120 Louisiana reconstruction projects that were stuck at the beginning of his presidency have been resolved, sending more than $1.4 billion in additional federal aid to Louisiana.

"I know since a lot of these problems have been going on since Katrina, people understandably feel impatient," Obama told the crowd of several hundred who won tickets in an Internet lottery to attend. "On the other hand, a lot of these things are not going to be fixed tomorrow."

Obama said officials from his administration have made 35 trips to the Gulf Coast since March -- and "not just to make appearances, but to listen and to learn and help you move forward."

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/21304406/detail.html

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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:16 PM
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30. Get a clue.
Nobody's blaming Obama--we just recognize the fact that because of the damage Bush did be neglecting New Orleans, Obama now has to clean up the mess Bush left behind.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:02 PM
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4. I'm sorry...I wasn't listening...
I kinda zoned out after seeing, 'I am disturbed...'
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:05 PM
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5. First visit since taking office 9 months ago. Five previous visits
as Senator and candidate.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:12 PM
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10. he hasn't been to my state either, why did i ever vote for him
:eyes:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:14 PM
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13. You guys are strange. What happened to New Orleans is a NATIONAL FUCKING PRIORITY
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 06:34 PM by Leopolds Ghost
When was the new Administration's first visit to ground zero?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:19 PM
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19. You're not entitled to your own facts
Do you want action or photo ops?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:33 PM
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27. Action = demolish all of NOLA's public housing? - is that what DUers want?
Bobby Jindal praised the Administration's current approach and defended him against inner-city critics.

My own facts are - I had no idea this was Obama's first trip until the AP mentioned that fact, today.

Photo ops? No, we need a fucking summit meeting. We need a fucking Thames Barrage down there.

We need to stop local Blue Dog Dems from demolishing and selling off the city's public infrastructure.

We need accountability for what happened to people attempting to leave the city on foot.

You don't build a Thames Barrage if you've visited the city once as President.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:37 PM
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28. I think all public housing projects should be torn down
Put yourself in the shoes of a child having to live like that--the crime, poverty, despair. I'm for the mixed income community model.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:26 PM
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33. You mean like what they've done in every HOPE VI project? Or just the Wal-Mart one?
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 07:36 PM by Leopolds Ghost
There were mixed-income, scattered site public housing all over Capitol Hill (a wealthy community) in DC. Guess what the "progressive" local (white) Democrats have done? Gotten them demolished -- and the schools that served them -- one got converted into a Gold's Gym. Another into a "mixed-income" Ballpark development which is, in accordance with the model favored by Clinton and Obama, 100% owner occupied, good credit required to purchase, $600 K starting price (the largest public housing project on capitol hill got turned into the Barracks for the Eighth and Eye Marine Corps Band -- Ollie North's regiment -- complete with a private tennis court and razor fence around the property -- and the people on Capitol Hill cheered and said "think of the children" who will no longer have to live in such a horrible place as their community). And the leader of that movement got elected to City Council as a reward for getting rid of the horrible, horrible, sight of poor black people living "within sight of the Nation's Capital building" as the posters and government housing manuals used to proclaim and openly tsk-tsk.

The Wal-Mart in the Garden District (NOLA) was a mixed-income public housing project. They cleared land there -- in one of the oldest cities in America -- for a giant Wal-Mart -- government funded -- which promptly became just about the only store in the city. The land was available under HOPE VI -- former public housing in a wealthiest part of the city -- just happened to be the first public housing to be demolished -- not the most distressed.

The rest of the land was rebuilt as ticky tacky "fake" shotgun houses, only for a higher income group than the garden apartments there before (which were themselves historic enough that the NOLA historic society condemned their demolition and got some of them preserved.) There are no Tower Blocks in NOLA.

The public housing in NOLA was built by ROOSEVELT & the NEW DEAL -- JUST LIKE Stuyvesant Town in NYC (if it's good enough for the rich...)

With friends like these (no less than 20 such staffers, you say, who agree with Bobby Jindal) working to demolish public housing using Katrina as an excuse and remove homeless encampments and argue the area is better off with fewer people (were they too chickenshit to do it before the storm or is it just easier to avoid eviction proceedings if you can cite "acts of God") who needs enemies?
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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:21 PM
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32. Leopolds Ghost--thanks for this post. We're probably the only
2 here who agree that fixing New Orleans is a national priority and that the Obama administration after the mess Bush left behind needs to see it as such.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:30 PM
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34. Problem is, too many agree with Bobby Jindal
That "this is the perfect time to clean New Orleans up" by bringing back only the people who deserve to come back, and demolishing the only structures that didn't flood, the government owned ones, that we don't "need" anymore. There's a palpable sense of "well, the city is better off with fewer people living there, THOSE people shouldn't be living in a place that's below sea level anyway".

Heck, they're doing it all over, the minute poor people can't afford to live somewhere because of disinvestment and resulting wholesale urban renewal, they tear down the schools with it, on the grounds that the people living in the new development will be able to afford to send their kids to private school, or better yet (according to cap rates theory) won't have kids at all.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:18 PM
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18. AND 20 staff members devoted to it who have visited 35 times within
the past few months!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:01 PM
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29. The door swings both ways
Landrieu, Melancon and Nagin have all been worthless, especially Landrieu on the health care issue, and those are just the Democrats. And looking over last Fall's election returns from Louisiana, I can certainly understand why that state has not been at the top of the Obama Administration's priority list.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:18 PM
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31. Yes, but Obama was supposed to save NOLA from what the right-wing Louisiana Dems have done.
Right? I mean, that's the purpose of electing a strong progressive Democrat to national office, right?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:06 PM
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6. .
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:11 PM
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8. I guess it's not okay to criticise current policy towards New Orleans in your book
Oh, I'm so deeply humbled by your arrogance.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:12 PM
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11. LOL!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:15 PM
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14. I'm glad you take Katrina relief so seriously.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:16 PM
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17. Nice leap, bullfrog.
Jeez. Talk about arrogance.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:21 PM
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21. No kidding!
I'm curious how he extrapolated all that from the picture you posted.

:rofl:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:10 PM
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7. I volunteered in NOLA for 6 months while the people unrecc'ing this post were praising
The Administrations' decision to demolish all of New Orleans' public housing and close 99% of its public schools in "response" to Katrina. the new Administration has decided to continue those policies. PM me and I'll put you directly in touch with the relief workers I'm working with and they can explain to you how badly New Orleans has been betrayed.

Fucking dilettantes.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:16 PM
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15. I think the people in the 9th ward got betrayed. Just as W
and Jindal planned it.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:19 PM
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20. 99% of its public schools?
Edited on Thu Oct-15-09 06:19 PM by KamaAina
I'd heard that about 60% had been converted to charters. Of course, that's still enough that the charters are competing for students like military recruiters do, in places like the Wal-Mart parking lot on Tchoupitoulas.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:25 PM
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23. Yep. Closed the rest and converted them all to charters. And the WalMart? Used to be public housing
Local government built that Wal-Mart, which put several of New Orleans' 150 year old markets out of business. Every single fucking relief org was forced to buy their supplies at a Wal-Mart built on a HOPE VI contract on land "reclaimed from horrible, horrible public housing" that happened to be located smack dab in the Garden District.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 04:44 PM
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37. Typical "Shock Doctrine" M.O. That's one place I wanted to
see before I left this country. Guess now there's nothing to see.;(
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:11 PM
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9. LOL Journalism died in the 90s.
No one takes them seriously because they are not serious anymore.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:16 PM
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16. This is the worst thing he's done since he gave Gordon Brown those DVDs.
Wharrgarbl.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:26 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 06:31 PM
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26. I take Katrina relief seriously.
I can't take this shit seriously. Latest poutrage nontroversy.
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Bonn1997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:41 PM
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35. Visiting places is just for PR. It sounds bad if you don't visit but it doesn't make a difference...
from a policy standpoint. That's whether we're talking about Iraq, Afghanistan, or La.
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