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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:15 AM
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With Al-Qaida Fading, Why Expand the Afghan War?
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Consider the testimony of Dr. Marc Sageman before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. On Oct. 7, he presented before the committee a long and meticulous examination of the nature and limits of the al-Qaida organization today, and of the groups associated with it, the people who belong to it, the nature and limits of its present situation, the real (and limited) success of its terrorist actions and projects during the years since its founding in 1988—especially during the eight years since the 9/11 bombings—and, finally, its strength and operational potential today.

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His testimony is much too long, systematically organized and synthesized, and meticulously documented, to be summarized here. It can and should be consulted at the Foreign Policy Research Institute Web site (www.fpri.org).

A few of its most important points follow.

1-There have been 60 global neo-jihadi (the author’s preferred term) projects or “plots” in the West in the last two decades, by 46 terrorist networks or groups connected directly or indirectly with al-Qaida. The first was the original attack on the New York World Trade Center in 1993, and the most recent was a plot to blow up the headquarters of the French General Directorate of Internal Security, the author of which was arrested in December 2008. Of the 60 plots, only one is completely unsolved.

2-Al-Qaida itself was directly linked to 20 percent of these episodes. Most—78 percent—were the work of “autonomous homegrown groups” with no real connection to al-Qaida, but its admirers, usually inspired by the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

3-Of the 60 “neo-jihadi” plots in the West, nine were actually Algerian terrorist attacks on Paris in the 1990s (for its support of the military government in Algeria), three were al-Qaida’s successes (9/11, the London bombings, and indirectly Madrid), 36 were disrupted by police arrests, and 10 failed because of mechanical or organizational failures by the terrorists.

4-The al-Qaida core organization became active in the West in 1993 (the first Trade Center attack), peaked in 2001 with the 9/11 bombings, and since has been in decline. Only two other al-Qaida-linked attacks were successful (the London transport bombings and the Madrid train-station bombing—which had no active link to al-Qaida, but was copying it.). Some 3,000 Americans were killed on 9/11, 52 people in London, and 191 died in Madrid.

5-There has since been no “resurgent al-Qaida” in the West. The overall pattern of international terrorism since 2001 is increasingly that of a “leaderless jihad,” resembling the spontaneous series of terrorist actions and murders of heads of state in Europe and America (including U.S. President William McKinley in 1901), carried out by autonomous utopian anarchists at the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries.

6-Al-Qaida’s relations with the Taliban today are troubled. According to Sageman, any “Taliban return to power will not mean an automatic new sanctuary for al-Qaida.” He concludes that “effective counter-terrorism strategy on the brink of completely eliminating al-Qaida.” There will be no organization to return. This is the result of effective international and domestic intelligence cooperation as well as good police work. So why, one asks, is the U.S. expanding its war in Afghanistan?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091015_with_al-qaida_diminished_theres_no_sense_in_expanding_afghan_war/?ln

here is another article about the same thing: "The Absurdity of War" by Robert Scheer
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091007_a_war_of_absurdity/

I don't know why we are staying much less expanding. They may be using the Afghanistan conflict to try to prop up the Pakistani government. They definitely don't want that country to fall into chaos.

They need to rethink their whole approach.


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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:19 AM
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1. anybody still really think the 9-11 attacks (official story) was planned and directed from
a cave in afghanistan?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:52 AM
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2. Then there's that oil pipeline... and don't forget the MIC
they need that revenue stream to stay a'flowin'. :puke:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:32 AM
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3. Unocal.
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