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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:30 AM
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War is peace. Ignorance is strength
War is peace. Ignorance is strength
15 Oct 2009



Barack Obama, winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, is planning another war to add to his impressive record. In Afghanistan, his agents routinely extinguish wedding parties, farmers and construction workers with weapons such as the innovative Hellfire missile, which sucks the air out of your lungs. According to the UN, 338,000 Afghan infants are dying under the Obama-led alliance, which permits only $29 per head annually to be spent on medical care.

Within weeks of his inauguration, Obama started a new war in Pakistan, causing more than a million people to flee their homes. In threatening Iran – which his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, said she was prepared to “obliterate” – Obama lied that the Iranians were covering up a “secret nuclear facility”, knowing that it had already been reported to the International Atomic Energy Authority. In colluding with the only nuclear-armed power in the Middle East, he bribed the Palestinian Authority to suppress a UN judgment that Israel had committed crimes against humanity in its assault on Gaza – crimes made possible with US weapons whose shipment Obama secretly approved before his inauguration.

At home, the man of peace has approved a military budget exceeding that of any year since the end of the Second World War while presiding over a new kind of domestic repression. During the recent G20 meeting in Pittsburgh, hosted by Obama, militarised police attacked peaceful protesters with something called the Long-Range Acoustic Device, not seen before on US streets. Mounted in the turret of a small tank, it blasted a piercing noise as tear gas and pepper gas were fired indiscriminately. It is part of a new arsenal of “crowd-control munitions” supplied by military contractors such as Ray­theon. In Obama’s Pentagon-controlled “national security state”, the concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, which he promised to close, remains open, and “rendition”, secret assassinations and torture continue.

The Nobel Peace Prize-winner’s latest war is largely secret. On 15 July, Washington finalised a deal with Colombia that gives the US seven giant military bases. “The idea,” reported the Associated Press, “is to make Colombia a regional hub for Pentagon operations... nearly half the continent can be covered by a C-17 without refuelling”, which “helps achieve the regional engagement strategy”.

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http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=551
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:13 AM
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1. It is difficult to see or imagine what message is represented in that sign?
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 09:19 AM by ThomWV
I just can't get it in my head what the person who put up that sign had in their mind. Why is there what appears to be an overflowing garbage can prominent in the picture? Do they think its is some sort of allegory? Do they think no one or everyone will make the jump to "1984"?

Just what point are they trying to make?
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:59 AM
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3. My guess

The image is from one of the ubiquitous cameras of 1984. Coming to your neighborhood soon.

k&r
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:21 PM
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17. The police put that sign up -look in the left corner. How fucked up is that?
How ominous too, that they take something that speaks about THEM and the other powers that be and use it in such a twisted fashion! :wtf:

The teabaggers did the same thing because I remember when DUers where talking about teabags as a way of protest and low and behold a year or so later we see the freeper teabaggers. :puke:
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 10:10 AM
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2. This is interesting
(and a little ominous)

"The day after Blair was elected in 1997, the Observer predicted that he would create “new worldwide rules on human rights” while the Guardian rejoiced at the “breathless pace the floodgates of change burst open”. When Obama was elected last November, Denis MacShane MP, a devotee of Blair’s bloodbaths, unwittingly warned us: “I shut my eyes when I listen to this guy and it could be Tony. He is doing the same thing that we did in 1997"
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:32 PM
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4. kick
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:51 PM
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5. K&R.
Much as I love to hope, and appreciate some of the changes President Obama has already made, these disturbing facts cannot be ignored.

Although I did manage not to notice the deal with Colombia for seven military bases. I don't want it to become even more convenient for the US government to interfere in Latin America.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:06 PM
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6. This is a bunch of bullshit.
In Afghanistan, his agents routinely extinguish wedding parties, farmers and construction workers with weapons such as the innovative Hellfire missile, which sucks the air out of your lungs.

Well, I guess you could call a conventional missile developed in the 1980s "innovative." If you were a fucking idiot.


Within weeks of his inauguration, Obama started a new war in Pakistan, causing more than a million people to flee their homes.

Except that wait, no, he didn't. That's bullshit.

In colluding with the only nuclear-armed power in the Middle East, he bribed the Palestinian Authority to suppress a UN judgment that Israel had committed crimes against humanity in its assault on Gaza – crimes made possible with US weapons whose shipment Obama secretly approved before his inauguration.

OK, now you're just stone cold makin' shit up.

During the recent G20 meeting in Pittsburgh, hosted by Obama, militarised police attacked peaceful protesters with something called the Long-Range Acoustic Device, not seen before on US streets.

It's a big, really irritating loudspeaker.

Mounted in the turret of a small tank

If by "tank" you mean "van." Hell, I make this mistake all the time.

The Nobel Peace Prize-winner’s latest war is largely secret. On 15 July, Washington finalised a deal with Colombia that gives the US seven giant military bases. “The idea,” reported the Associated Press, “is to make Colombia a regional hub for Pentagon operations... nearly half the continent can be covered by a C-17 without refuelling”, which “helps achieve the regional engagement strategy”.

Um, perhaps he needs some assistance in differentiating between "establishing a base" and "starting a war."

Guided by US military satellites, Colombian paramilitaries now infiltrate Venezuela with the goal of overthrowing the democratic government of Hugo Chávez

Y'know, this is just getting stupid. Pilger is an asshole who just makes shit up to support his baseless contentions.

Obama, the smooth operator from Chicago via Harvard, was enlisted to restore what he calls “leadership” throughout the world. The Nobel Prize committee’s decision is the kind of cloying reverse racism that has beatified the man for no reason other than he is a member of a minority and attractive to liberal sensibilities

Seriously, fuck you John Pilger.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:13 AM
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7. "establishing a base" and "starting a war."
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 06:17 AM by maryf
I'm having a hard time seeing a difference? 7 bases in a country the size of Columbia? Seems like something might be up...this is scary, admit it...oh and, on edit: “helps achieve the regional engagement strategy”. Couldn't "engagement strategy"? (from the AP not Pilger) be translated as "war"?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:18 PM
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9. No, it can't.
Establishing bases is not the same thing as starting a war. Furthermore, there's not even any evidence to support his contention about the number of bases. As usual, Pilger is just pulling shit out of his ass or getting his information from unsourced blogs.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:40 PM
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10. Oh yes it can...
Engagement Strategy seems to me to be a euphemism for war, or at least military aggression... of course you said establishing bases is not the same as starting a war, whereas I had said engagement strategy was the same as starting a war, two different things. Sorry to be repetitive, but wanted to be clear...engagement strategy = plan for military action...oh, or is someone getting married?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:17 PM
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16. There already is a war in Colombia---besides the war on the poor.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:15 AM
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8. K&R
Thanks for never stopping with the truth...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:44 PM
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11. This is the asshole who described Obama as a "Glossy Uncle Tom", right?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:47 PM
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12. He also described Hillary Clinton as an "anti feminist"
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 03:47 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:49 PM
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13. Sucks the air out of your lungs?
The Hellfire has a conventional explosive or shaped charge warhead, not a thermobaric or fuel-air device that would do such a thing.

A minor nitpick, I know, but if the media can't get simple thing right why truct them on the big things?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:51 PM
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14. No, ignorance is DU's Trotskyite mob nt
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:11 PM
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15. Is this the new motto of America? Sounds like it. n/t
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